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Recent updates to Infinite Potential Well: (Generated at 2024-05-16 09:13:20)
Ah. There's the sneaker hiding at the end. Well, you're right about that. I'll let you figure out which you prefer after that point.
If I said "different," would I still need to say "It can't target you"?
Oh, yes, you're right about the copies not making copies. Good Show.
As for it always hitting your opponent in a duel... I'm not sure about that. It says to choose a 'new' target. But, in my head, that just means to put a new target on the stack and all targets are valid. If it asked you to choose a 'different' target, however, then it would have to hit the opponent. Would it make more sense to replace the word 'new' with 'different', if only to clear up the confusion?
changed reminder text to specify "you" rather than "this permanent"
As fun as it sounds, you can't go infinite with ricochet. Since it only creates a copy when a player casts a spell or activates an ability, creating a copy from a triggered ability doesn't create a second copy. The discussion on Mirror Spirit should clear up why.
In a duel, this merely reflects the spell onto your opponent. In multiplayer, the randomness kicks in.
I don't think there is a way to give an opponent shroud, or protection from a color. If there is, however, Mirror Shield, Your opponent having Protection from Blue and Oona's Grace says "Draw your library". It also says lose the game... but I'm assuming that, if you have the ability to give your opponent shroud, you probably have the Demystify ready to end it... especially after drawing your library. I suppose you could always use Ivory Mask and Donate to set this up, but that is a four card combo. Mind you, a four card combo utilizing three spells that are generally useful.
Otherwise, this card's kind of cool. I like the fact that some decks would play it, then play cards like Soothing Balm on themselves. Does my opponent get a 50% chance of gaining 5 life? Sure... but I'm playing combo or control and don't care about that. I, on the other hand, have a 25% chance of gaining 10 life, and a 25% chance of gaining 15 life or more when I do that.
Just replace "permanent" with "you".
What if it gains shroud as well? No, that would counter the original spell. For now I'll use SM's earlier idea and make it more mundane. No more board-sweeps, though.
In the context of a triggered ability, "this permanent" refers only to the object that created the particular instance of the trigger. The problem of an endless Pong game still arises.
I don't think that will happen. The reminder text says "The copies can't target this permanent." That applies to copies of copies as well (I think).
Two copies of this on the table, grow one of them; bounces back and forth infinitely still, I think.
"And that copy cannot be copied" is inelegant, but possibly workable?
Does that deal with the issues?
You could specify that Ricochet represents both the triggered ability and "This permanent can't be the target of copies of spells created this way" (which would automatically exclude it from the random choice, so no fear of landing back on itself and fizzling), but then the same problem arises by engineering a board with just 2 ricochet creatures.
Would limiting spells to a single level of ricochet (i.e. "Whenever a player casts a spell that targets CARDNAME...") make the ability too mundane?
Also, what about spells with multiple targets (like Symbiosis)? Do you reselect all the targets at random, or just the target responsible for the ricochet trigger? What if it's something like Seeds of Strength targeting this three times?
My main issue is that if you target this with Giant Growth and it's the only creature on the battlefield, it becomes infinitely big and/or the game self-terminates. What would be the best wording such that that doesn't happen?
Haha, I love the idea of the static ability. The spell kinda reminds me of Odds // Ends even though it's not actually very similar.
I could adapt this to either my RWU or URG wedges as a static ability. Ricochet: Whenever this permanent becomes the target of a spell or ability, copy that spell or ability and choose a new target for the copy at random from all legal targets.