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Recent updates to Silmarillion: The War of the Jewels: (Generated at 2024-05-19 12:24:33)
> "Choose target spell or permanent. Exile it, if it shares a name with a card chosen, exiled, named, or revealed this turn."
... but... the spell or permanent would always be exiled since you just "chose" it as a target... right?
> "Now I wonder whether voting for something is choosing it..."
> 701.30. Vote
> 701.30a Some spells and abilities instruct players to vote for one choice from a list of options to determine some aspect of the effect of that spell or ability. To vote, each player, starting with a specified player and proceeding in turn order, chooses one of those choices.
So it probably is?
EDIT: I about to remove the 'or named' from the condition list, but then I started thinking... If you choose target creature, then obviously the chosen option applies. However, if you choose a nonland card name that matches to the name of a creature, was the creature really chosen? Its name was, but was it, as a creature? So in that case, would the term "named" hold purpose?
Well, you better decide whether naming cards is still a thing or not to your cards and either use the old template for the first or the new template for the second (and remove "named").
Having it both ways is what causes confusion here.
EDIT: Now I wonder whether voting for something is choosing it...
@SecretInfiltrator:
"Name a nonland card" is no longer a 'thing' and has been replaced by "Choose a nonland card name" (compare Brain Pry old text vs oracle text). In practice, that 'named' condition can't happen anymore, but I included for clarity reasons ("backwards compatibility" in a sense).
That "choose target..." wording makes the card a bit redundant perhaps with "choose a name, then choose target" but in general it seems better. I've to look into it...
Now you can tap your Green-Elf Wanderers for mana and also smash face. I also like the flavor resonance of awakening your sleeping creatures (Veil of Sleep) with the 'Sound of Horns'.
buff: now untaps your creatures as well
Why not "name a nonland card"?
I have an issue with this, since targets are chosen. Actually the preferred wording for this effects might be:
> "Choose target spell or permanent. Exile it, if it shares a name with a card chosen, exiled, named, or revealed this turn."
@lklklk124:
With that wording it immediately comes to my mind that there is an issue of interpreting it as:
> Choose one - Exile target spell; or exile target permanent if...
So it needs some other switching around to make it clear.
@dude1818:
You sure about that? How do Meddle and Blood Lust (oracle wording) work?
It was the idea that that can be a trick you can do with this. However, with what little playtesting I've done with this card it seems generally better for you to either animate an untapped land you control or the problematic cards themselves rather than this to protect it. Of all permanent types, creatures are the most susceptible and have the most effects targeting them. Ie. Turning this into a creature would make it possibly to use stuff like Call of the Sea on it. The tactic would likely be most successful against mono- decks, but even then stuff like Sound of Horns would (still) wreck you.
Not just clarity, but also so that the card actually works. As written it's a replacement effect, which doesn't mean anything.
I’d maybe change the templating to “Exile target spell or permanent if ...” for clarity.
I don’t know how I feel about the plus being able to lignify itself. Planeswalkers that lose planeswalker unique weaknesses for the entirety of the opponents turn is unique but I don’t know if that’s entirely good.
I upped the mana cost by and gave it +1/+1. This places it at the same CMC as Child of Melkor.
... Maybe the +1/+1 buff isn't necessary? Idk. In essence, if you cast this out before your first combat, it pretty much has double strike in addition to haste, so a buff of +1 to power translates to a +2 buff instead.
About the wording, I pretty much copy pasted it out of World at War. I can't figure out why it's worded as it is. Maybe it has something to do with it being a sorcery with rebound? ... or just for other clarity reasons.
+ to mana cost and +1/+1 to stats
Why not "After the first postcombat main phase on each of your turns, untap all creatures that attacked this turn. There's an additional combat phase followed by an additional main phase."? It's slightly less words.
That being said, passive additional combat step is probably not too strong since additional combats are rarely strong in the traditional sense, but it's definitely undercosted and a lot easier to access than most. Aurelia, the Warleader is probably the best one out of all of them, and this is comparable to it.
"First of the Exiles" -> "Caranthir the Dark Exile" + the legend type
This might compare too well against Aurelia, the Warleader...
"When you cast ~" -> "After the first postcombat..."
"Whenever ~ attacks for the first time" -> "When you cast ~"
> old-card-that-received-proper-oracle-text-tier wordy
It kinda is, isn't? I also realized that it still wouldn't help you to utilize your uprise mana fully.
IMO this works better at one cheaper without haste - give the opponent some time for counterplay. That way you have less issues with infinite flickering.
Regarding the wording, it does work, but its old-card-that-received-proper-oracle-text-tier wordy.
Would something like this work ? :
> You may cast ~ as though it had flash during your declare attackers step. If you do, it becomes attacking, then untap all attacking creatures, and after this phase, there is an additional combat phase.
The desire here specifically being that you could properly use mana gained from uprise to cast this.
art switch
... There's some infi combats with flickering isn't there? I'm not sure if its worth it to safeproof this against those.
"it is" -> "it's"
enchantment type removed
+1 to starting loyalty and the second ability can now target any graveyard
switched the last two abilities around + removed the flavor text in favor of a reminder text