Huh; so you have to set it up, and then activate it?

But in exchange, you don't have it sat around waiting to be disenchanted. Feels pricey, but I guess it shuts down some decks cold.

Yes, the card's actual effect (whether it was proclaimed or not) is supposed to work when somebody tutors for and plays the tutored card on the same turn - even "triggering" with stuff like Sylvan Scrying and Commune with Nature. It would also work against other proclaimed cards that are played on the same turn they are proclaimed.

So the at sorcery speed cost is (only) for those scenarios where it can't hose tutors or whatever.

It's kinda walking on unprecedented design space and I think it might have an effect (if it was printed irl) on other formats; even (or more so) on legacy and/or vintage.

Going for a sorcery-speed Utter End with this card costs so it's color intensive and not really a possibility for any random multicolor deck with white in it.

I'm unsure what the name should be. The card itself is a story-moment card for when the "Doom of Noldor" was announced and currently the name references the phrase "Long was the way that fate them bore" which appears in ley/song about Beren and Luthien.

With the proclaim mechanic the card's name can play a really nice role ("When you proclaim 'NAME'..."). Just announcing the card could be a rather fun event in itself.

Here are the list of names I'm considering:

• Long Bore Fate
• Meet/Face Your Destiny
• The Hour is Done/Nigh
• Impending Doom
• It was Inevitable
• Fated/Destined for Failure
• Appointed/Predetermined/Foreseen Fate
• Already Doomed

Confusing card. I guess it's mostly OK, but I think you've already red-flagged it.

What's the point of exiling a card that's been exiled? (Yes, I know there can be multiple copies, but the wording shouldn't make me be asking that question in the first place.)

cool art! I'd go with "Face Your Destiny" among your name list.

It's a rare card: red-flagging is only relevant for commons.

Flickering and rebound are two examples where "exile something that was exiled earlier" would make sense. That part of its functionality is pretty niche admittedly.

I’d maybe change the templating to “Exile target spell or permanent if ...” for clarity.

Not just clarity, but also so that the card actually works. As written it's a replacement effect, which doesn't mean anything.

@lklklk124:

With that wording it immediately comes to my mind that there is an issue of interpreting it as:

> Choose one - Exile target spell; or exile target permanent if...

So it needs some other switching around to make it clear.

@dude1818:

You sure about that? How do Meddle and Blood Lust (oracle wording) work?

Why not "name a nonland card"?

I have an issue with this, since targets are chosen. Actually the preferred wording for this effects might be:

> "Choose target spell or permanent. Exile it, if it shares a name with a card chosen, exiled, named, or revealed this turn."

@SecretInfiltrator:

"Name a nonland card" is no longer a 'thing' and has been replaced by "Choose a nonland card name" (compare Brain Pry old text vs oracle text). In practice, that 'named' condition can't happen anymore, but I included for clarity reasons ("backwards compatibility" in a sense).

That "choose target..." wording makes the card a bit redundant perhaps with "choose a name, then choose target" but in general it seems better. I've to look into it...

Well, you better decide whether naming cards is still a thing or not to your cards and either use the old template for the first or the new template for the second (and remove "named").

Having it both ways is what causes confusion here.

EDIT: Now I wonder whether voting for something is choosing it...

> "Choose target spell or permanent. Exile it, if it shares a name with a card chosen, exiled, named, or revealed this turn."

... but... the spell or permanent would always be exiled since you just "chose" it as a target... right?

> "Now I wonder whether voting for something is choosing it..."

> 701.30. Vote
> 701.30a Some spells and abilities instruct players to vote for one choice from a list of options to determine some aspect of the effect of that spell or ability. To vote, each player, starting with a specified player and proceeding in turn order, chooses one of those choices.

So it probably is?

EDIT: I about to remove the 'or named' from the condition list, but then I started thinking... If you choose target creature, then obviously the chosen option applies. However, if you choose a nonland card name that matches to the name of a creature, was the creature really chosen? Its name was, but was it, as a creature? So in that case, would the term "named" hold purpose?