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lowered cost
Yeah, I'm not sure how it would actually be implemented, I wonder if any of the existing magic forums have a markup tag for "link to rules"? If there were a reliable wiki that listed the current comprehensive rules by number and preferably archived old versions, that would be ideal, but I don't think anywhere actually keeps it up to date like that.
Heh. There isn't, but it's a good idea... although if I use a local copy of the rules that'd then leave me needing to update Multiverse every time a CompRules update comes out.
PS. I probably should have quoted the relevant comprehensive rule, when SM pointed it out. It's not the default, that
reduces 
, it's an extra clause in the rules to make it work the way people would expect.
> 117.7. What a player actually needs to do to pay a cost may be changed or reduced by effects. If the mana component of a cost is reduced to nothing by cost reduction effects, it‘s considered to be
.
Paying a cost changed or reduced by an effect counts as paying the original cost.
> 117.7a If a cost is reduced by an amount of colored mana, but its colored mana component doesn‘t contain mana of that color, the cost is reduced by that amount of generic mana.
> 117.7b If a cost is reduced by an amount of colored mana that exceeds its mana component of that color, the cost‘s mana component of that color is reduced to nothing and the cost‘s generic mana component is reduced by the difference.
It goes on to talk about hybrid & phyrexian mana.
(Alex, is there an automatic way of linking to a section of the rules? :))
Not so; the offering ability (Patron of the Akki) will gladly take off-color mana as a cost reduction, and if you have a Sphere of Resistance and nine green creatures, Khalni Hydra is still free. This is why Edgewalker is forced to state the limit on its otherwise-ridiculous cost reduction in rules text rather than reminder text.
By making this "costs less to play" rather than "add to your mana pool", it does open up the avenue of playing Myr Superion for a restriction-free
. In return, though, you can't do something like play three Reckless Waifs on turn 1. Which is more important?
Actually, this reduces cost by exactly
. Priest of Urabrask will cost 
. Only cards that cost exactly 
, 
, or 
will be free.
Heh. Priest of Urabrask does a funny job, rewashing the mana back into normal
. This gives you the classic Dark Ritual into Priest of Gix, Priest of Gix, Phyrexian Negator, except, replace the Negator with some other relevent modern spell. (If only the priests were goblins...)
Alternatively, there must be something that can make this go crazy with an early mana producer? Fortunately, round 1/2 Wirewood Channelers kind of need some other elves to be broken... but you get the idea. I can't think of the card, but I have a hard time imagining there isn't something on par with Gilded Lotus in the creature zone.
Ah, I'd forgotten that, you're right. (Thank you.) I changed it to be
for now. Although that probably could be confusing to people, it probably should change to be "add to your mana pool. spend this mana only on"
{1R}->
Reducing by
will already take off 
if there's no red mana in the cost, so the strange hybrid symbol isn't even necessary.
Any conceivable use for 1/C has been rendered somewhat obsolete by color indicators.
Yeah, you're right, it is basically geosurge but on turn 1, I'd forgotten that because it didn't seem to get people excited, but I wonder what would get people excited.
I don't know why I'm not more excited by geosurge: playing a 7CMC creature on turn 4 OUGHT to be exciting, but someone it seems to trip my "oh, it'll never really happen" button rather than my "ooh, I wonder if..." button...
Yes, {1R} is supposed to be 1 or R. Obviously wizards probably wouldn't make the mana symbol just for this card, but it seemed the best way to express it (assuming hybrid cost reduction works how I expect). But if you use the geosurge template, it doesn't need it.
Is {1R} meant to be a hybrid
/
symbol, i.e. {1/R}, like 
?
Geosurge is basically this idea, isn't it? I think that's a lot clearer and easier to understand.