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With regard to "we should only make custom MTG cards that Wizards would print": That's an oversimplification. Most of us in our custom sets are deliberately relaxing certain restrictions that WotC follow, such as "no other IPs" (Doctor Who, Harry Potter, Code Geass), "no references to Earth / modern technology", complexity level/target audience, or whatever.
But in each case the general assumption is that we're trying to design "like WotC except where noted"; if we don't state "I'm deliberately breaking the colour pie in areas A B and C in this set", we'll get a lot of commenters pointing out colour-pie violations. Which is fair enough.
So I completely agree "their way of doing it isn't the only way of doing it". This whole site exists pretty much on that basis. But it's still helpful to state your assumptions and approaches that differ from "like WotC", otherwise people will assume it's in a "like WotC unless noted" area and point things out.
How about a compromise?
> "... exile target nonbasic permanent until..."
Personally I find the overabundance of nonbasic land use regretful, so slowly but surely printing cards that hose them is something I could get behind.
It's definitely something risky. Getting lands removed early on in the game is really painful.
I'll agree, I mean I've been playing with a concepts such as extra colors for years now.
Just in general WotC is the only "standard" to which we can compare ourselves so certain people are very adamant about staying within the boundaries they have revealed. It's ironic really how many times they print stuff that would get panned if shown by a custom designer. The recent blocks seem to have also crossed the redflagged quota and are high in complexity.
The comparison to Vindicate is actually really scary. It's not on the level of "I consider this generally worse than Ancestral Recall" but still, how many times have played a game in standard or such that Oblivion Ring or Banishing Light was removed after it was played? Heck,
and 
are pretty much denied the possibility to do so.
I don't really think this is problematic as a 3 mana land destruction, because it has the downside of being removable. I consider this generally worse than Vindicate, and while Wizards probably wouldn't print Vindicate again (in Standard at least). Also, I kinda disagree with the philosophy of "we should only make custom MTG cards that Wizards would print." They've done all sorts of things that they people "wouldn't do" and while they are very good at what they do, their way of doing it, isn't the only way of doing it.
As far as I know WotC evades 3-mana land destruction even if it's multicolored. Gameplay wise I don't feel the LD option brings much, but removing does makes it just a Banishing Light so
becomes questionable.
Still it could be made into a "half-gold multicolor" as SecretInfiltrator puts it:
> Cycle of what I'll call "half-gold multicolor" like Dreadbore or Glimpse the Unthinkable.
I mean, the original Journey to Nowhere was black after all (Oubliette) - so kinda the
here would be just "condensing" the cost.
That card was made in Aenyr as Lifelike Canvas.
Gurmag Angler is already rather competitive. Giving every color access to an arguable better version of it seems ill-advised.
Yeah, was thinking double regrowth instead of Restock. Definitely changing it to rare, though. I think I misclicked when I was drafting it up, lol.
What I was thinking is that if you try and abuse this you end up eating your own yard up to fuel it and thus run out of targets. One can't get back itself and if you try and chain them you are eating like 10+ cards a turn. The only decks I can think of doing something like that are Storm and Dredge and I'm not entirely sure they want this card since Storm already has Yawg Will and Dredge wants it's cards in the yard to Dredge.
You guys are awesome to design with, though!
This looks pretty bonkers to me. I would say it rivals Treasure Cruise, a card which is banned in both Modern and Legacy and even restricted in Vintage.
Consider the following: Get seven cards in grave (as in "threshold") -> cast Restock for
+ this is as flexible as it gets. Oh and yeah: it definitely should exile itself upon resolving.
Normally this kind of card would have "Exile ~" tacked on to the end of it: All Suns' Dawn, Nostalgic Dreams, Praetor's Counsel, Recall, Restock, Seeds of Renewal, Wildest Dreams.
Those examples look like this is also a lot more likely to be rare than uncommon. There are uncommon examples: Vengeful Rebirth, Shreds of Sanity, Treasured Find, Pull from the Deep - but they're less frequent than the rare versions. In particular, getting multiple copies of the green "get back any card" effect has only been uncommon once, on Restock (which was rare originally).
So this isn't unprintable, but it will raise a few eyebrows.
Ooh. One-shot Vigor. Nifty.
@Tahazzar I don't see it as 'suffering' so much as a commonality. Permanent destruction is tertiary part of the Green color pie. We have Imprisoned in the Moon in standard, even though that effect isn't 'Blue' in nature. I wasn't designing with any particular thing in mind but I often play Cube and Commander so cards I often play with are of Legacy power level.
@Vitenka I like that too! I had considered something like that of the madcap-style tutors. I think I'll change it to that and it opens up the uses of the card from straight removal to a Crop Rotation type effect, which is SUPER sweet.
How about making it the controller of the creature can search their library for a creature to hand? That way there's always some downside when using it for removal; and there's more incentive to use it on your own stuff.
Beast Within? Lol. You might as well be citing Desert Twister. Those cards are notorious precisely because they suffer from the same problem.
Personally I find the idea of a "green Path to Exile" sensible, something that Song of the Dryads is rather close to, though I think it also is frowned upon and was only printed for a EDH product which isn't modern legal (also why something like Chaos Warp could see print).
So for the same reason, if you are aiming to modify legacy with this then I guess modern color pie implications hold less sway, which I assume you are doing since Swords to Plowshares is known to be one of the best creature removal spells ever printed and you mention it casually that you are somehow using it as a "baseline". Even then I would like to question why would you want to give green removal that could possibly content with white's and black's. Usually when people are measuring cards to Swords they are looking for a
counterpart since it's reaally weird that white has better removal than black in those older formats. I think this was in part the reason why Fatal Push was also printed (since even in Modern Path to Exile exists).
I like some of your ideas jmgariepy! I feel you're right and the jaunt towards Abrupt Decay and others would probably take the qualms away. Strange how mtg psychology works, haha.