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• 2014-03-26 14:16:30: Link commented on Vote 2 - Bottom up ideas

  As Alex said, you're skipping a step. Here's some other ideas:

  • Hybrid vs. Monocolor (Can play out differently than true multicolor)
  • Lands matter (Zendikar did it, of course)
  • "Keyword tribal" block (Things that care about flying, vigilance, etc.)
  • Instants/Sorceries Matter
  • Command Zone Matters (The command zone exists in every game. Why not see what we can do with it outside of commander?)
  • Monocolor Matters
  • "Quests" Matter (Could fuse with Enchantment block- lots of Zendikar-esque quests, maybe with Arthurian flavor)
  • Allied Colors vs. Enemy Colors

  I'll be back again with more, probably.

• 2014-03-26 14:11:49: cmeister2 edited Vote 2 - Bottom up ideas
• 2014-03-26 14:11:05: cmeister2 commented on Vote 2 - Bottom up ideas

  Ok, reasonable. I've refocused things.

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• 2014-03-26 14:01:20: Alex commented on Vote 2 - Bottom up ideas

  "Bottom-up" means the set as a whole is driven by a mechanical idea.

  So I'd say we should throw around ideas for what kind of mechanical identity we want the whole set to be.

  Suggestions so far, including other ideas proposed for the first community set and lots from the thread below:

  • Tribal block (Onslaught, Lorwyn)
  • Wedge multicolour block (everyone's waiting for one)
  • Colour-pairs multicolour block (Ravnica)
  • Exile-matters block
  • Hybrid (Shadowmoor)
  • Colour-matters (Invasion, Shadowmoor)
  • Artifact block (Antiquities, Mirrodin, Scars of Mirrodin)
  • Enchantment block (one of Theros's major mechanical themes though Theros is ostensibly a top-down block)

  • DFC-focused block (Mirroria)

  • "color-hate set"

  • "your hand and/or library vs. in play"

  • "spells vs. creatures"

  • Hybrid vs. Monocolor (Can play out differently than true multicolor)

  • Lands matter (Zendikar did it, of course)
  • "Keyword tribal" block (Things that care about flying, vigilance, etc.)
  • Instants/Sorceries Matter
  • Command Zone Matters (The command zone exists in every game. Why not see what we can do with it outside of commander?)
  • Monocolor Matters
  • "Quests" Matter (Could fuse with Enchantment block- lots of Zendikar-esque quests, maybe with Arthurian flavor)

  • Allied Colors vs. Enemy Colors

  • Luck Counters/Victory Counters: The opposite of Poison. You win when you get 10. Could be part of Quests Matter.

  • "Colorless matters," were we introduce spells that can only be cast with colorless mana and treat colorless as a "new" color

  • +1/+1 or -1/-1 counters matter could probably be a theme, though likely it would go with another theme

  • Planeswalkers matter

  • Legends matter
  • New card type (e.g. Plane, Terrain, Automobile)
  • Alternate color pie (cf. Planar Chaos)
  • Unbalanced colors (cf. Torment/Judgment, So Ling) ++ Missing color, e.g Anhydria
  • Tapped/Untapped matters

  • Activated abilities vs. not/ abilities matter

  • Different mechanical themes for each colour, or colour-pair, etc. E.g. Sienira's Facets has different colour-pairs caring about different card types; the first Community Set has a different mechanical identity for each mono colour; and several sets in Magic's early history worked this way.

  • Tokens matter,
  • Enchantments matter,
  • Iconics matter (sphinxes, dragons, demons, angels, hydras)
  • Control matters (e.g. Gift)
  • conflict between laziness and activity (details)
  • Other card types turning into creatures

  Of course, mechanics that will have a wide impact on the whole block are fair game for discussion at this stage. Possibilities:

  • morph
  • flickering
  • Gift

  The other thing to say is that sets can and do have multiple focuses. Theros is top-down Greek mythology but also bottom-up enchantments-matter. Shadowmoor was hybrid-focus and colour-matters (and top-down "dark mirror"). Onslaught was morph-focused and also tribal. So perhaps we ought to vote for mechanical themes and then see how many of the top 3 or 4 vote-getters we can combine into one set.

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• 2014-03-26 06:56:50: cmeister2 commented on Vote 1 - Top-down or Bottom-up?

  Ok, it's looking like bottom up is going to win this, and now it's Wednesday, so I'm calling it.

• 2014-03-25 20:44:42: amuseum commented on Vote 1 - Top-down or Bottom-up?

  i'd vote top-down if it was a megablock called Multiverse Showdown where it's a free-for-all with Dominaria vs Phyrexia vs Ravnica vs Eldrazi vs Innistrad

• 2014-03-24 11:01:08: cmeister2 commented on Vote 1 - Top-down or Bottom-up?

  I wanted to give people a chance to respond; if it looks like this is all the votes we're going to get, I might pull forward the voting date to, say, Wednesday.

• 2014-03-22 03:58:51: Link commented on Vote 1 - Top-down or Bottom-up?

  Current Tally:
  Top-down: 2
  Bottom-up: 4

  I doubt we'll get many more votes, but I could be wrong.

• 2014-03-21 17:10:53: Vitenka commented on Vote 1 - Top-down or Bottom-up?

  I've yet to figure out why. I say top down; it's what I'm worst at.

• 2014-03-21 17:04:05: Circeus commented on Vote 1 - Top-down or Bottom-up?

  Mostly because so many of them are floating around. People REALLY REALLY liked Ravnica XD

• 2014-03-21 03:50:48: amuseum commented on Vote 1 - Top-down or Bottom-up?

  one thing for sure, i don't want Yet Another Ravnica Block (YARB)

• 2014-03-21 03:04:06: Link commented on Vote 1 - Top-down or Bottom-up?

  All sets have some elements of both.

• 2014-03-21 02:16:39: Circeus commented on Vote 1 - Top-down or Bottom-up?

  Bottoms up.

• 2014-03-21 00:11:28: jmgariepy commented on Vote 1 - Top-down or Bottom-up?

  Can I vote for doing the Time Warp, and taking a step to the left, then a jump to the right?

  No? Then Top, immediately followed by Bottoms-up. I rarely stay at the top, but it often sets up the idea. I'm not sure that was an option, either. Hmm.

  Ah, put me down once for both. I do both. Often at the same time.

• 2014-03-20 17:36:39: cmeister2 commented on Vote 1 - Top-down or Bottom-up?

  I vote for bottom-up; let's make some mechanics :)

• 2014-03-20 17:01:04: amuseum commented on Vote 1 - Top-down or Bottom-up?

  oh Alex, you're so kinky. so you design the back side first? and thus, this card is born: Chaos Spatula

• 2014-03-20 15:32:46: Link commented on Vote 1 - Top-down or Bottom-up?

  Hahahaha.