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CardName: Spiral of Ascension Cost: 2UB Type: Sorcery Pow/Tgh: / Rules Text: Return target creature card from a graveyard to play under your control. Return target creature to its owner's hand. Flavour Text: Set/Rarity: Community Set Uncommon

Spiral of Ascension
{2}{u}{b}
 
 U 
Sorcery
Return target creature card from a graveyard to play under your control. Return target creature to its owner's hand.
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Created on 19 Jan 2012 by Jack V

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2012-01-19 15:07:59: Jack V created the card Spiral of Ascension
on 19 Jan 2012 by Jack V:

I doubt this actually fits anywhere, but I wanted to brainstorm some possible multicolor abilities.

on 19 Jan 2012 by Link:

This seems quite powerful for the cost, doesn't it? Maybe I'm wrong.

on 19 Jan 2012 by Vitenka:

­Reanimate but with an attached unsummon rather than a lifeloss?

Probably slightly undercosted, yeah - though amusingly can't be used after a wrath because there's no target for the second half :)

on 19 Jan 2012 by Jack V:

Yeah, I'm not really trying to balance cards this afternoon, just look for ideas that may be worth doing.

Looking at recent examples, it should probably be "your graveyard", and then the cost for that is, I suspect "the effect is worth about 3B or 3W but the card should never cost less than 5 CMC to prevent too-powerful reanimation decks". And I think "unsummon" costs at most U. 3B + U could probably be 2BU, but this card should probably be at least 3BU.

on 19 Jan 2012 by Alex:

Heh. It's like Soul Manipulation, or Soulquake, or Rise // Fall. But those are all Raise Dead rather than Zombify.

We definitely could do this. Although actually, maybe this might be a good set for the Generated card {2}{w}{b} Sorcery, Return target permanent card from your graveyard to the battlefield.

on 19 Jan 2012 by Jack V:

Yeah. I originally had "raise dead", but I thought the flavour was better if it was A->B->C. But it could equally well be "Ascend to the clouds. Return target creature card in a graveyard and target creature to their owner's hands".

­this might be a good set for the Generated card {2}{w}{b} Sorcery, Return target permanent card from your graveyard to the battlefield.

Oh yes, that does look good. Simple, but strong and appropriate. Can we call it "unvindicate"? :)

on 19 Jan 2012 by Alex:

Created that one at Relive for discussion. Name is obviously changeable.

I note that Jack's alternate proposal is precisely Rise from Rise // Fall.

on 19 Jan 2012 by Jack V:

Oh yes, so it is. Maybe we should have some split cards, if they're more flexible to cast in a multicolour deck (although lets not just yet, lets wait and see if its too hard to cast traditional gold cards).

on 20 Jan 2012 by jmgariepy:

I wonder if the second half of this card should be targeting at all. It feels like a more natural card to me if it returns a creature from your graveyard to play, then returned a creature you controlled from play to your hand. In theory, that's worse than Zombify, but with ETB creatures, that would be better. You could even route an ETB creature from your graveyard through play into your hand, triggering and ready to cast again.

on 20 Jan 2012 by Jack V:

jmg: You're right, that has more of the feel I was looking for, I think.

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