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"I don't believe they couldn't have picked "erode" or something and converted mill the same way."
They introduced "Commander" as a formal rules term ten years ago, and there are still significant amount of people calling it "EDH". There is NO WAY IN HELL NO WAY NO HOW they would've gone with a term they weren't absolutely 200% certain people would have immediately switched to, and there may be complaining, but no other words could've possible do that at this point.
This has me thinking [like a silly goose], but what if instead of "draw a card" we used "card up." Just imagine Overflowing Insight reading "Target player cards up seven times."
This came from discard being intuitive.
I also wondered about a term for "put into the graveyard" from any zone. "Erode target hand" "erode target library" etc. But I guess milling here is saving words by not specifying library. So we have a pair "discard" and "mill" meaning almost the same thing.
Or, I remember teaching new players they'd be confused that discard WASN'T from play. I'm not sure if that can be improved.
"Forget" sounds like discard. "Grind" and "erode" don't make sense for removing things from either a library or from your long-term memory, and are only proposed because they're loose synonyms for mill (in the English sense)
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It's about time. In my opinion, no word would have been flavorful and catch, at least words that were free.
What about "and then shuffle?"
I think it's cool that a player term "ascended," but it's not as flavorful add "grind" or "erode" or "forget."
"Grind" would be better, as a verb. But even so, not particularly memorable. So yeah, I'm surprised they gave in.
And yet are still holding out about "and then shuffle".
Mill has no flavor, but every other option is confusing with discard
Huh. Keyword makes sense, but I thought they'd hold out for a flavour that was transparent to new player. Erode sounds good. I guess "mill" grinding cards away is a reasonable flavour?
I'll probably eventually pick it up, but I'm more than happy with bury. I don't believe they couldn't have picked "erode" or something and converted mill the same way.
That said just having the keyword action is good.
Finally after 26 years, 'mill' is now officially a keyword action starting in Core 2021.
The template is "mill N cards". In English, N is spelled out (one, two, three, etc.)
Ex. mill four cards
Carrion Grub
Time to mass update all your cards!
just realized Mimicry above in practice is just weaker deathtouch. so change it to capy any creature in combat.
Mimicry (This creature may deal combat damage equal to the power of another attacking or blocking creature.)
Now it can copy power of any creature in combat so it doesn't feel useless if not blocking/blocked. Alpha attacks would be crazy.
Ex. Attack with 1/1 with mimicry and 9/9. the 1/1 would deal 9 damage, too.
Blue by grandfathering isn't great, admittedly. Strategically, though, it makes more sense for blue to encourage other colors to smash against its defensive walls. Add a few Horned Turtles and the mechanic works well in a way that wouldn't work as well with Lightning Elementals.
And anything that encourages designers to make more combat appropriate blue creatures is fine in my book. Worst in combat shouldn't mean 'skips combat'.
Huh. I do like that. The comp-ruling would be pretty horrible; "Opponents must attack you must attack you with at least x creatures (where x is the number of siren's call abilities you control" maybe.
I like it, a very nice red keyword. But it's only really blue for the historical pie. I'm also not sure I like the idea of it as an evergreen; but I'd want to see how it played out. Maybe it's more fun than I think it is.
I don't mean to step on Sorrow's cool ideas, but I couldn't help think of an old mechanic that doesn't work, and how keywording it helps to solve the problem.
Siren's Call (When an opponent declares attackers, they must attack with one creature for each creature with Siren's Call you control. This ability is not redundant.)
I always thought it was a neat idea, and way back in the day had a bunch of Creature Type - Enchantress with rules text that talked about how your opponent was supposed to attack with a number of creatures equal to the number of Enchantresses you controlled. But two enchantresses would mean four attacking creature. And trying to write your way out of that in 20 or so words was nigh impossible.
But reminder text doesn't need to be exact. It just needs to get the point across. "This ability is not redundant" is icky, and it doesn't do a perfect job saying that "Two creatures with Siren's Call means two attacking creatures, and not four." But if it isn't clear for some people, it will encourage those players to find out what the ability really does. They ask, or they read, and problem solved.
You've all inspired me to make some trash and maybe something that could be passable or an abomination, I'm not sure.
Fir ((C119473)). I like this ability, but I don't believe it's evergreen material, heck, it may not even be keywordaable.
Up next is ((C119474)). I tried to flavorfully create something evocative for aspects of blue and red. Fast1 on the card, was getting toward where i needed to be, but still a far ways off, absolutely nopeland. But Fast2, maybe Fast2 is good. I don't know, maybe discount hexproof is really bad and whack.
That sounds like a fun block mechanic, but I don't know about evergreen. It feels familiar, like maybe I made a similar suggestion but as a
mechanic. I can't find it, though.
Mimicry (This creature may deal combat damage equal to the power of a creature that is blocking or blocked by this creature)
Basically it may copy the power of a creature it's dueling. Making it very dangerous to block it and as a blocker.
ex. 1/1 with mimcry blocks or is blocked by 5/5. now the 1/1 may deal 5 combat damage to 5/5.
ex. 1/1 with mimcry is unblocked. it deals 1 damage to opponent.
Hey SecretInfiltrator. I don't know if you're still active but maybe you can help me with my stress mechanic problem. ((C119207)) It's giving me a headache.
@Jack: Nah, I'd rather not gatekeep security work. It's really simple work, and great for simultaneously working on portable creative projects, presuming you land a place where you have minimal human interaction and the supervisors don't expect you to perform 20 minute tours every 30 minutes. Not every site is simple or safe, but with a little patience it's usually not hard to find the simple and safe sites. I don't understand why more artists and writers don't do this work.
But oof. I could tell you about some job sites I've worked. Here's a teaser. There's a trailer full of dynamite for blasting granite in the White Mountains of New Hampshire. Your job is to take your car, drive up the side of a mountain at dusk, and protect that trailer. Your office is your car. There are no bathrooms. And the cougar screams at night are unworldly.
@Link: That sucks that you're stuck in such an exposed job. Make sure you're protected even if your co-workers are slacking off. We live in the exact wrong country for a pandemic. Citizens of the US don't have a lick of sense. We built an empire because we were too stupid to realize we couldn't. Belligerence is one heck of a drug.
"Haha! It is the exact opposite of metal. "
Yeah but you don't have to TELL people that :) Ouch, yeah, I hope your parents are ok. And everyone else too.
Oh, Jack, I never saw this until today. We've coexisted in this space for a long time but I don't know much about anyone here except that dude1818 visited a college near me once.
I'm from the US. I work at a grocery store, and while most people are somewhat good at following the guidelines, there are enough that aren't that every day I dread going to work. I live in fear that, even though I take just about all the precautions that I can, I'm going to wind up infected because of someone else's nonchalance or idiocy. My co-workers don't follow the guidelines as strictly as I would like, and the number of people I see who don't wear masks or follow social distancing is extremely frustrating and stressful.
I've been doing all of my parents' shopping and as much of their errands as they'll let me, because while they're not quite as old as jmgariepy's parents, they're still at-risk. I'm still afraid constantly that it's not enough, especially since I'm pretty sure my dad isn't following the guidelines very well at all. He's still operating his business. (This is probably fine because it's a very large place with a very small number of employees who don't need to be near each other, and they are working for a food provider... but it still makes me anxious.)
In summary, everyone I know is fine, but I'm still nervous. I wish people would just... have some sense.
@Froggychum: Haha! It is the exact opposite of metal. We sit around all day rarely responding to anything. Then when something actually happens (maybe once every other week) we spend way too much time figuring out what the heck we're going to do.
I work third shift, so I don't want to call anyone unless it's actually important. We got plenty of training, but it ususaly goes out the window the moment a pipe bursts.