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CardName: Black: Counter Creature Spells Cost: B Type: Expansion Pow/Tgh: / Rules Text: Further extent black's claim as the "best color at getting rid of creatures". Flavour Text: Set/Rarity: [Theory] Color Pie Discussion Common

Black: Counter Creature Spells
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Further extent black's claim as the "best color at getting rid of creatures".
Updated on 23 Sep 2017 by Tahazzar

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2017-09-21 16:02:25: Tahazzar created and commented on the card Black: Counter Creature Spells

Premise

Countering a creature spell isn't that far of from destroying a creature. Also, it further guarantees {b}'s role as the color with best creature removal.


Notes

ETB and "dies" triggers on creatures are becoming so prevalent that {b} having this effect in its repertoire makes sense. With this change it's likely that the number of "exile target creature" could be reduced in {b} since that recent trend might stem from the same issue of ETB/"dies" trigger abundance.


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Examples

I dunno - that kinda IS the distinction. Black can kill your creature as soon as it appears; blue can stop it appearing in the first place.

Still; I could see "Kill target creature. Exit the battlefield effects don't trigger" as being a thing black could get; distinct from exiling it. I think being vulnerable to the ETB effects is probably a sensible weakness to keep.

I can agree with that. To a certain extent this has to do with {w} creature removal which usually is just straight-up better than {b} equivalent effects. {w} still holds its claim on wraths tightly though {b} has gotten a taste of that slice of the pie somewhat nowadays. The reason why it's related is that there are two colors that can remove creatures quite easily (also red with burn) yet not no other color except {u} does counters ({w} was supposed to be secondary but that idea was abandoned or forgotten). Also, the increase of "exile target creature" effects in {b} is questionable (as it makes {w} and {b} closer when they already share the same tendency for having great creature removal) so this shift could help to rectify that.

As for that "LTBF don't trigger" I included a card with that kind of effect in my Future Sight 2 set: Futile Waste. I found the design on reddit custommagic. Note: That FS2 set is pretty much a compilation of "cool" stuff and doesn't have the qualities to a real contender for a set IMO (no cohesive mechanics for example).

EDIT: Added "Harsh Reality" as an example.

2017-09-22 08:54:41: Tahazzar edited Black: Counter Creature Spells

See Souldrain. It contains also a link to the thread where different colorshifts of counterspells are discussed superficially.

Ah, yes, I recalled that card, but couldn't find it. Now added to "examples" section.

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