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CardName: Shimmering Void Cost: Type: Land Pow/Tgh: / Rules Text: If Shimmering Void would arrive, you may exile your graveyard instead. If five or more cards are exiled this way, put Shimmering Void onto the battlefield. Otherwise, exile it. As long as Shimmering Void is exiled, lands you control have "{T}: Produce {C}." {T}: Produce one mana of any color. Flavour Text: Set/Rarity: Cards With No Home Rare

Shimmering Void
 
 R 
Land
If Shimmering Void would arrive, you may exile your graveyard instead. If five or more cards are exiled this way, put Shimmering Void onto the battlefield. Otherwise, exile it.
As long as Shimmering Void is exiled, lands you control have "{t}: Produce {c}."
{t}: Produce one mana of any color.
Updated on 13 Jan 2019 by Link

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2019-01-10 18:23:37: Link created the card Shimmering Void

Alright let me get this straight. I'm going to ignore the evident formatting errors for now.

To play this, you have to exile your graveyard. Pretty weird but ok.

If you exile this card, lands now have an additional ability that allows them to produce colourless. So I guess this is good for those Oath of the Gatewatch cards? Or maybe you really want your Eye of Ugin to produce mana but don't want to use Urborg or Riftstone Portal

Also, this is a rainbow land. With the only downside being that you exile your graveyard. Meaning that for every deck that doesn't use the graveyard meaningfully, this is better than almost every land ever printed.

I tried to base the formatting off of Kjeldoran Outpost.

(I quite frankly detest "Add {M}," so I use "produce" instead because it sounds better. "Arrives" is short for "ETBs.")

I don't see how it's better, to be honest. To even get it onto the battlefield you need five cards in your graveyard. You then have to get five more cards there in order to play another. Am I improperly assessing the power level?

2019-01-12 22:00:02: Link edited Shimmering Void:

Edited in an attempt to clarify my intent.

With your edit you really confused me actually :P

before it wanted to have 5 cards to work, now it wants to have less than 5...

Did you mean to change it?

Also i think the problem Izaac had was that most decks wont care about the graveyard, so its not harmful to use this... But I do agree its balanced to have a threshold to not exile.

The way you changed it, to repeat, makes it sound like you want less than 5. Which is easy to do because you just play this first on your first turn... This is imbalanced. The way it was was obviously better, but still perhaps not balanced, but made much more sense.

I do appreciate the wording of adding an Otherwise, x

but you mixed the two things up, but maybe I am wrong, because it seems a bit of an ignorance of Occams Razor if i assume you accidentally wrote as long as ~ is exiled just by mis-chance, that would require a lot of chance, probably more likely you changed the meaning of the card/....

Also by your comment; if this was your original intent, it was poorly portrayed before, but now is totally clean, and is not as reasonable of a card.

I hope I made that all make sense, I probably missed a few cross-sections with all that clarification and it will come off as incomplete and therefore illegible... Maybe not, maybe the people on the other side of the screen have a bit more dynamic interpretation than i do....

on 13 Jan 2019 by Vitenka (unlogged):

Froggy - you've misread. If you cannot exile 5 cards from your graveyard, you exile this instead of putting it into play - and get the "all my land can make colourless effect". Which is fairly minor.

If you can exile 5 cards, you get a utopia instead. Which is indeed nice, but a substantial hoop to jump through.

If the card was as you read it (unconditionally a utopia) that would indeed be too good.

As it's worded right now, you need five cards in the graveyard to even get it to the battlefield. If anything, it seems really bad to me.

Yeah not sure if the original card had it but it now definitely needs to exile 5 cards with it's bojuka bog effect before it can actually hit the battlefield.

So the 2nd ability says that if you have this card exiled, lands you control can produce colourless. I feel like this is supposed to be some sort of downside. As in if you have less than 5 cards in your graveyard when you resolve the first ability, it now turns all your lands into wastes. But it doesn't say they lose other abilities, it just gives them an extra ability. Meaning that it's straight upside. Even as a downside for not exiling enough graveyard cards, it's still pretty weird. The 1st ability cannot be responded to so you'll never accidentally not exile enough cards so the only way you'll fail the 1st ability is if you can't count to 5.

on 13 Jan 2019 by Vitenka (unlogged):

I assume that because you might want to be able to make colourless. In which case this gives you it, in excahnge for having to play this early enough that your graveyard is small.

So this is all upside all the time - which is fine. Lands are supposed to be upside, why would you play them otherwise? The upsides are fairly minor. Exiles graveyard which you might want (Ink eyes...) gives you colourless or; if played lae enoguh, all the colours.

All of which feel fine to me.

I see, i didn't read close enough. my bad.

So basically this is a modal land that you don't get to choose, except by balancing your graveyard until you play this?

It's a pretty unique idea, but I think it's a lot more weird....

It works, but I don't really know why these two (basically opposite) things would be on the same card? I guess my problem is that it doesn't seem to have a point...?

I guess on one hand you can play artifacts / eldrazi and on the other you can play 2+ color decks? okaaay....

Well I guess the name fits now (it might have b4, my memory for cards i dont actually put effort into memorizing and retaining the memory of is awful.), void = {c} and shimmering = {w}{u}{b}{r}{g}

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