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2013-02-26 18:25:33: cmeister2 commented on Challenge # 069

The Table - I need some art for that :)

2013-02-26 18:25:06: cmeister2 commented on The Table

For Challenge # 069. I may not be being entirely serious.

2013-02-26 18:24:28: cmeister2 created the card The Table

2013-02-26 17:25:12: SadisticMystic commented on Flipper Elemental

Challenge # 069. Flip flip flip.

2013-02-26 17:24:52: SadisticMystic created the card Flipper Elemental

2013-02-26 15:10:37: Link created the card Promise of Motonari

2013-02-26 14:07:45: jmgariepy commented on Challenge # 069

Note to self: Remember 'Designing for the past' for a future challenge.

2013-02-26 14:07:15: jmgariepy commented on Challenge # 069

Challenge accepted. I kind of like the idea of going old school with these. I've seen enough people get creative with flip cards, which we'll probably never see again anyway. Making a traditional Kamigawa flip card, though, is like designing for the past. I can dig that.

2013-02-26 13:58:48: Jack V commented on Challenge # 069

I considered saying "design a flip card updated for modern design standards", but I think the answer would be "the inevitable answer is 'use a DFC' but that's still unsatisfactory."

2013-02-26 13:57:23: Jack V commented on Challenge # 069

I wanted something appropriate for the rotationally-symmetric challenge number 69, so design a flip-card.

The traditional guidelines for a flip card are:

The flipped side is legendary
The normal side is (by name, flavour and mechanics), a mini-version of the grown up side
The text box is very squeezed for space. About four lines max, and bonus points for one or two lines of text.
It flips when some condition is met, like a mini-quest
The flip is sufficiently important, so people should remember that it's flipped.

I think wizards deliberately tried to keep the first double faced cards different to flip cards, but they'd probably use double faced cards instead if they wanted to use flip cards in future, even though DFC are very inconvenient for casual players. In fact, as far as I can tell, they're almost mechanically identical, except that DFC are affected by things that say "turn face up" or "turn face down", instead of "flip" or "unflip". So feel free to use either card frame, but try to keep the rules text short enough to fit on a flip card.

2013-02-26 13:44:40: Vitenka commented on Challenge # 069

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Middle Finger.

2013-02-26 13:40:33: Jack V created the card Challenge # 069

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2013-02-26 09:11:38: Vitenka commented on In Bloom

Hah! Moon logic to the rescue! (This effect is too powerful, it's broken! To fix it, we'll make it more powerful!)

2013-02-26 09:01:53: Jack V commented on In Bloom

Ooh, I like that interpretation.

2013-02-26 05:31:06: jmgariepy edited In Bloom

2013-02-26 05:30:48: jmgariepy commented on In Bloom

For Challenge # 068, and based on the bad card Nirvana. Poorly designed cards, and talking about poorly designed cards, can be difficult, since the proper answer is often "Just change the casting cost". Nirvana, though, seems boorish at any casting cost... it can lead to a locked game state; it doesn't matter if I cast it on turn two or turn fifteen. Something about the basic nature of that card needs to change.

So, I added a 'card-draw-link' to the card. Everyone still gets the ability, but the game can't last forever, because someone's going to draw out, and they will probably do it very soon. It's hard finding a good casting cost... If this was for only one player... maybe 9? The potential to combo out before your opponent gets a turn is certainly there... tough to call.

2013-02-26 05:23:46: jmgariepy created the card In Bloom

2013-02-25 18:44:35: Jack V commented on Demonic Influence

Inspired by Mutato Devil.

I decided I couldn't do something that did all of what mutato devil did, but I thought the +1/-1 counters were really interesting and made a card inspired by that.

I like the way it goes on making your creatures better but only up to a point.

It has the side effect of hosing lots of other +1/+1 counter creatures (maybe it should even JUST do that?), I can't decide if that's a plus or a minus.

2013-02-25 18:37:02: Jack V edited Demonic Influence

2013-02-25 18:33:47: Jack V commented on Mutato Devil

Demonic Influence taking the +1/-1 aspect of the card and making a card that just does that.

2013-02-25 18:33:11: Jack V created the card Demonic Influence

2013-02-25 17:55:41: Jack V commented on Mutato Devil

Ah! I'm glad someone made a card with a problem with targeting. I'm impressed it was possible to squeeze that much onto a card.

I'd also add

the abilities don't really make sense together
"For each creature type among creatures you control, Mutato Devil deals 1 damage to target creature or player" is ambiguous, or at least confusing, as vitenka's card pointed out
There's no good reason to mix mutatian-flavour with demon-flavour

But that's about as far as I can go, I think that's criticised just about every part of the card other than "creature" which seems ok :)

2013-02-25 16:34:35: Alex commented on Strength in Diversity

If you really want it all from different sources then that offers yet another wording:

> Choose target creature or player. Each creature you control that has a creature type which no other creature has deals 1 damage to the chosen creature or player.

2013-02-25 16:17:45: Vitenka commented on Strength in Diversity

Neither come out terribly nicely worded though. And this way I do have the damage coming from a bunch of different sources.

2013-02-25 15:53:58: Alex commented on Strength in Diversity

The way to word that will probably start "Choose target creature or player." After that it can go a few ways. One of those is "X, where X is". If you don't want that, then another would be "~ deals damage to that creature or player equal to the number of creatures you control with a creature type that no other creature has".

2013-02-25 15:50:27: Alex commented on Mutato Devil

Cmeister got most of the deliberate badnesses. A couple of others:

It overwrites creature types (making your Bird Soldier Cleric into just a Mutant) and then counts the creature types you have
It explodes if you have Mistform Ultimus around: any tribal effect needs to be careful that the numbers it can produce don't go 1, 2, 3, 437!
The creature type doesn't match the name
The activated ability has a number of targets determined when it's put on the stack, but that number of targets can change by the time the ability resolves. That last is the one that I hinted was also present in Rafiq, Who Climbs Clouds. It's a subtle problem but nonetheless a real problem, and not always trivial to fix.

2013-02-25 14:29:51: jmgariepy commented on Mutato Devil

There is nothing wrong with this card's creature type, since Infernal Spawn of Evil has grand-fathered it in. ;)

2013-02-25 11:22:23: Vitenka commented on Challenge # 068

Strength in Diversity both fixes, and requires fixing ;)