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CardName: New Rules Term Wanted Cost: Type: Land Pow/Tgh: / Rules Text: I want a term that describes playing a card, but not casting it. It obviously should make sense with lands, but preferable would be versatile enough to use with hypothetical custom card types that aren't using the stack either. Flavour Text: Set/Rarity: Conversation None

New Rules Term Wanted
 
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I want a term that describes playing a card, but not casting it.
It obviously should make sense with lands, but preferable would be versatile enough to use with hypothetical custom card types that aren't using the stack either.
Updated on 16 Jun 2018 by SecretInfiltrator

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2018-05-09 08:43:24: SecretInfiltrator created and commented on the card New Rules Term Wanted

"Playing a card" describes two distinct actions.

One of them has an explicit rules term, while the other does not:

  • cast: playing a card to the stack (it becomes a spell)
  • ???: playing a card directly to the battlefield (it becomes a permanent)

For ease of reference I want to fill these question marks with a good term.

Any ideas?

2018-05-09 08:43:40: SecretInfiltrator edited New Rules Term Wanted

cast: placing a card on the stack (it becomes a spell) Play: placing a card directly to the battlefield (it becomes a permanent)

Quickest solution, probably something better exists

No, "play" is definitive not the right term since it is already a rules term and already mentioned as literally the first word of the first comment.

Plenty of cards already use "play" and trigger on it, so changing its definition would require to change the wording of plenty of cards from "play" to "cast or play".

What I am searching for is specifically a term for "play, but not cast" and that term being "play" would just invite a lot of confusion.

My current working term is "deploy", but its not exactly thematic for lands.

I didn't understand the distinction. I would say "place" at that point except for the concept of placing counters on a permanent. I'm unsure what a permanent would be besides land that doesn't use the stack.

This is a little bit disingenuous as a question since there is a well established template (if not quite "rule term") for "playing a card directly to the battlefield (it becomes a permanent)", and that is "put on the battlefield"—and if that's not what you mean, then you need to revise your own wording first before asking for new ones.

I would say "place" at that point except for the concept of placing counters on a permanent.

Yeah, I had the same thought and rejected the term for the same reason.

I'm unsure what a permanent would be besides land that doesn't use the stack.

Custom card types. I recently created on called 'asset', but I've seen others. The term is supposed to be used for cards that are modular with other custom cards.

This is a little bit disingenuous as a question

You think I'm not actually interested in having that term?

"put on the battlefield"

Well, except if I create a card with e. g. the text "Whenever you put a permanent onto the battlefield, draw a card." it sounds really much like a permanent entering the battlefield after resolving as a spell should trigger that.

It ("putting onto the battlefield") also doesn't actually require playing a land and hence would also trigger from e. g. Elvish Piper/Llanowar Scout.

I want a term that actually means "play, but not cast" (note how both of my comments before this one specifically say "play"); your proposed wording is (usually? always?) used when an effect wants to move a card to the battlefield while circumventing the game action described by playing.

and if that's not what you mean, then you need to revise your own wording first before asking for new ones.

I have no idea what this means. Which is my own wording?

lay / lay down, situate, deposit, establish,

"Whenever you do not cast..." :)

Looking for ETB but not via the normal route? "Whenever ~ sneaks into play"? "Whenever ~ is cheated into play"?

As a test: Would the term/phrase be appropriate if someone uses their land drop for the turn?

"Whenever you do not cast a land, you gain 1 life."?

Well, I don't only do not cast a land, when I play a Forest, I also do not cast a land when I cast a Raging Goblin.


I could see "establish". It's about on par with "deploy" IMO.

I recently stumbled over "introduce".

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