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@Jack: Nah, I'd rather not gatekeep security work. It's really simple work, and great for simultaneously working on portable creative projects, presuming you land a place where you have minimal human interaction and the supervisors don't expect you to perform 20 minute tours every 30 minutes. Not every site is simple or safe, but with a little patience it's usually not hard to find the simple and safe sites. I don't understand why more artists and writers don't do this work.
But oof. I could tell you about some job sites I've worked. Here's a teaser. There's a trailer full of dynamite for blasting granite in the White Mountains of New Hampshire. Your job is to take your car, drive up the side of a mountain at dusk, and protect that trailer. Your office is your car. There are no bathrooms. And the cougar screams at night are unworldly.
@Link: That sucks that you're stuck in such an exposed job. Make sure you're protected even if your co-workers are slacking off. We live in the exact wrong country for a pandemic. Citizens of the US don't have a lick of sense. We built an empire because we were too stupid to realize we couldn't. Belligerence is one heck of a drug.
"Haha! It is the exact opposite of metal. "
Yeah but you don't have to TELL people that :) Ouch, yeah, I hope your parents are ok. And everyone else too.
Oh, Jack, I never saw this until today. We've coexisted in this space for a long time but I don't know much about anyone here except that dude1818 visited a college near me once.
I'm from the US. I work at a grocery store, and while most people are somewhat good at following the guidelines, there are enough that aren't that every day I dread going to work. I live in fear that, even though I take just about all the precautions that I can, I'm going to wind up infected because of someone else's nonchalance or idiocy. My co-workers don't follow the guidelines as strictly as I would like, and the number of people I see who don't wear masks or follow social distancing is extremely frustrating and stressful.
I've been doing all of my parents' shopping and as much of their errands as they'll let me, because while they're not quite as old as jmgariepy's parents, they're still at-risk. I'm still afraid constantly that it's not enough, especially since I'm pretty sure my dad isn't following the guidelines very well at all. He's still operating his business. (This is probably fine because it's a very large place with a very small number of employees who don't need to be near each other, and they are working for a food provider... but it still makes me anxious.)
In summary, everyone I know is fine, but I'm still nervous. I wish people would just... have some sense.
@Froggychum: Haha! It is the exact opposite of metal. We sit around all day rarely responding to anything. Then when something actually happens (maybe once every other week) we spend way too much time figuring out what the heck we're going to do.
I work third shift, so I don't want to call anyone unless it's actually important. We got plenty of training, but it ususaly goes out the window the moment a pipe bursts.
''I presume that my parents are just going to rush out and live their lives despite my protestation. It's like living with teenagers over here.''
Wow, that's rough, dude. My mum's also high risk, but even though this is hard for her, she isn't looking to put herself in danger. I suppose the best thing for you to do is to keep insisting, but I guess it's up to them how seriously they take things.
Also, on a lighter note, being a security guard sounds pretty metal :P
@Sorrow
''I overeat (in general), boredom eat, can't hit up the gym, and my only other hobby besides designing Magic cards [is] [...]''
Besides the fact I don't normally work out, you just described me pretty much perfectly. Try to stay healthy, if you can. I've heard that working on one's body is something that can really lift spirits (apparently that's why prisoner's sometimes get ripped, just out of boredom and sadness)
In other words, don't let your username define you, Sorrow!
I as very lucky that my job paid me up until or through the next pay period despite the department I'm in being unable to work due to covid-19. By June 8th I will find out if I'm only being temporarily furloughed or if I'm being laid off.
I've gained the coid-20. I overeat (in general), boredom eat, can't hit up the gym, and my only other hobby besides designing Magic cards in baking sweets- a rough combination. I've been bored, like most other people. I've begun watching Ask a Mortician videos because I'm deathphobic and has the effect on me that horror films have on those who get scared when they watch horror films. That, or they're neat historical videos that don't give me the hebie jeebies.
Thanks, Jack, for starting this thread, even if it got buried until now (it seems the conversation about ability counters jumped in the way of this 'set'.)
I live in the same household with my parents. They're on the bottom floor. And they're on the edge of eighty so I've been in complete isolation. I have to go to work, but I'm lucky because my job is security guard. There's only one other guard in the whole building, we don't share an office (any more) and we're likely to be the last people in the building to get furloughed.
But it's been frustrating trying to stop my parents from going out. I've yelled at them for going to the grocery store because Instacart can never seem to pick up Lactaid. I'm furious about my sisters who keep coming over to visit.
Now we're opening up the country too soon, and I presume that my parents are just going to rush out and live their lives despite my protestation. It's like living with teenagers over here.
I just came here to ask this, but it's already been asked.
I'm doing fine, and hope everyone else here is managing as well.
I'm a student, and our family's money comes from pension and social services (which apparently aren't the same thing, i learned recently), so those things haven't changed much. School did go from 'having been easy for many years' to 'wow this sucks'
Lately, I've been more down than usual, and developed a bad habit of not sleeping every other night. Boredom has been creeping in too, but with all day to play video games, I've been staving it off... at the cost of doing much school, stupidly.
I'm probably the only person I know (besides my brother , maybe) to not remotely keep up with the news. My mom's checking it constantly, probably hours every day. I've looked up a thing or two, and heard the rest from her.
Today I learned that 1 in 1500 people have been confirmed infected, according to google's worldwide statistics and the population of the planet.
I'm fortunate, I believe.
I would entirely prefer more Fish over having Shark return. But I'm looking forward to Eel, Carp, Ray, Piranha, Lamprey etc. ;)
The "carnivore" etc. stuff is the kind of extravagance a digital game can afford, but for a tabletop card game I'd always err into the other direction.
My theory was to introduce additional types, so "shark" lists "shark, fish, sea-creature" at the bottom of the text box. But those extras are usually obvious from the initial type so you don't need to memorize them all separately. Then we can have falcons back :)
You could even introduce some which aren't strictly hierarchical but are obvious from the flavour like "carnivore" orv", Hunter" or "monster" as long as you're strict about them being obvious.
But sadly it would almost certainly still introduce too many edge cases that don't work.
I'm annoyed that shark is a separate creature type from fish. I mean, it's not as annoying as wolves and hounds, but it's up there for me.
That's exactly why I think Trumpeting Gnarr is so interesting: It creates a 3/3 token whenever it mutates. A lot of other mutate effects involve removal (or at least tempo) or putting stuff on the battlefield.
Though it will be interesting to see whether that turns back on the mutate creatures since removal options are also strong against them.
That's an interesting way to strengthen the mechanic...
I guess we'll see how well it plays, I guess it depends on what kind of mutate triggers they use? I mean, board presence can be a lot more important than triggering card draws or other one-time effects... Perhaps it would be good for them to use mutate triggers to increase board-presence, to better offset the card disadvantage?
Elsewhere someone mentioned that Mutate is inherently card disadvantage, like Auras, because a single removal destroys two or more of your cards. So the Mutate trigger is like enters the battlefield trigger to offset the disadvantage. Except it can trigger multiple times if you decide to go heavy mutate deck.
I knew I had seen this on Multiverse somewhere. Nice job, sir.
I think so. I think the point is that if your third (splash) color doesn't show up, you can still mutate
Do the weird hybrid costs only show up in mutate costs? I think (wg)(r)(r) is much less off-putting if the main mana cost expects you to play main red with the other colours anyway
I don't think so, I think it's just "parasitic" and "not parasitic"
Thanks, I didn't know about linear and modular...
Is there an opposite of parasitic/insular?
I really like the mutate mechanic. Companion's a bit weird, but seems fine too.
That's linear vs modular, also an old pair of design terms. Linear mechanics really need you to build a deck around them, so you tend to run a lot of cards with the mechanic (like metalcraft). Modular mechanics can be played on their own with no loss (like cycling). Mutate is a little linear, because it does reward you for having more mutate, but it can also be run on its own fine
Parasitic specifically means it only works with other cards from its own set/block. Most linear mechanics are parasitic the first time, but can become less parasitic if they get used more (like slivers)
Insular is a lot better of a word. I hadn't thought about it.
I agree mutate isn't insular. The abilities that specifically reference it and only work with it are probably insular, but you make a good point that it's not a problem because it encourages deck building for the new mechanics.
My main problem with hybrid cards is, at least for me, i find them to have a deceptively tight design space.
I'd kind of assume that since there are more colors, there would be more cool abilities, but in fact, since you have to make sure every possible color combination of the card fits the color pie, it really restricts what you can do with the card.
I still like hybrid cards though, they're really good to look at to get a reminder about the color pie.
First, the word 'parasitic' is unintuitive for how they use the word. They should use the word 'insular'.
Mutate is not insular because it works with every (nonhuman) creature. It can target any (nonhuman) creature. (Aside, in some cases like Human Insect or Human Werewolf can't be mutated? But in Innistrad they did transform.)
Second, that triggered ability is just a rider for new mechanics. It's a bonus that encourages linear deckbuilding. There's always abilities that encourage certain themes or mechanics.
A bit linear. But mutate itself works with any non-Human creature and even a single card can trigger its own "When this creature mutates" ability, so to say "When this creature mutates" abilities are parasitic is like saying "When this creature exploits a creature" abilities are parasitic. They always do something, but aren't quite as open-ended/modular as "When this creature enters the battlefield or mutates" or "Whenever you sacrifice a creature".
The fact that you can mutate any non-Human creature makes this far less parasitic than host/augment.
The best comparison would be to ask: Would a creature with bestow be parasitic if it had the ability like "Whenever this or enchanted creature is bestowed an Aura, do something"? It still works with any creature, so it's not problematic.
The cards that reduce mutate costs etc. are more parasitic.
There's nothing wrong with parasitic mechanics in moderation. It's also not that parasitic, because you can run mutate creatures in any deck and still get the trigger. It's somewhat linear, because it rewards you for having multiple mutate cards in the same deck
Am I correct in understanding that mutate is parasitic- or rather, "when this creature mutates" abilities are parasitic? It's not the first time Magic has had a parasitic mechanic (if mutate is), and I doubt it will be the last.
The official stance often quoted and repeated since 2018 (and probably earlier) used to be: "Reaction to the Alara Reborn Cards is what made us realize mixed hybrid symbols are a mistake."
Now it's a mistake they intentionally repeated. ;)
Maybe the wedge cards for the Messenger Falcons cycle are gonna be in Ikoria, too. :D
@Sorrow, yeah, I was already feeling 100% vindicated just by the amonkhet punchcards, but this has me over the frickin' moon XD
@Secret they've done costs like that before, though, in Alara Reborn IIRC. in my opinion, it was inevitable that it would happen again, really.
On the list of things that Ikoria does and would have gotten your design ripped apart by the custom card community: mana costs like
. I know, I've been using much more considerate costing schemes than that and got criticized for it.
Though I'm going to side with the custom card community here in that the specific sample cards are already so complex that this cost is just making things even more noisy.
I also get where they are coming from though on mutate costs, maybe: It's a perfect cost that tells you "If you've been splashing one of these two colors to get this card in and dindn't draw the mana, you can still mutate as long as you have the correct main color."
It's weird and pragmatic. But it made its way onto a real card.
I haven't been playing this game at all, and looked up the last couple sets like once each, so i don't know how good they've been, but these new mechanics seem pretty interesting, more so than what I felt with my very quick looks at Theros 2.0 and Throne of Eldraine.
Can't wait for more
big stompy bois.
Oh gosh, mutate is entertaining. It reminds me of what Goblin Artisans were trying to do with Head/Body of mecha assembling into one giant robot. It's a way of making a "make one giant creature" mechanic that's not too punishing if you don't draw the right parts together, and gives you some reason to do so rather than just try to play all the creatures separately.
It seems too rules-headache-y to be printed but I guess they thought it was ok!
It's not totally open ended because it doesn't give you any way to combine two non-mutate cards. But you can take the text box of any 1/1 from an older set and easily staple it to a big stompy mutate creature you have now, that's more melvin/johnny than I expected to see :)