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CardName: Wandering Spider Cost: 2G Type: Creature - Spider Pow/Tgh: 1/1 Rules Text: Reach, deathtouch When Wandering Spider enters the battlefield, you may have it fight target creature with flying. Flavour Text: Set/Rarity: kauefr's cards Common |
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It's Plummet, but in a way green isn't allowed to do.
In what way is green not allowed to do this? It's just a straight up cross between fight and flier hate. If you're saying you can't have a green spell effect on a green creature, I don't know what to say to you... also we have Stingerfling Spider.
Ah, okay. Thinking about it a bit more, I realize you were referring to the deathtouch + fight combination. I would say that's fine in this case since it can only target fliers, making it an effective Plummet as opposed to an effective Murder, which is what I believe one would actually want to avoid.
In general I think the idea is that we should avoid taking components that are in-color and combining them in a way to create a result that is off-color. So we don't see things like "~ deals X damage to target creature, where X is its toughness." in red.
That is what I was referring to, but no you're right, the end result is still in the color pie for green. It just feels wrong, since this is like the default example of abilities not to combine.
I can't decide if this is great (because green always wants to combine fight+deathtouch and against fliers it can), or to be avoided (because it makes it obvious that green COULD do that, but never actually does). I wonder what Rosewater would say.
It's fiiine. With all of them having the crucial flying restriction this really boils down to whether you think Murder (Plummet) or Starstorm (Windstorm) is somehow more green than "fight + deathtouch" which is just pure nonsense IMO.
we should avoid taking components that are in-color and combining them in a way to create a result that is off-color
That's my opinion too, I want to avoid 2 things in green:
Combining green effects in a non-green result (like your Murder example)
Placing effects that depend on creatures as ETB effects, because I feel just tacking an effect on a creature doesn't make it "creature dependent". Example: Ancestral Bear
Creature - Bear 0/0 with "When ~ ETBs, draw three cards"
But flier-hate is an effect green is allowed to do without creatures, so I think we're safe here.