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CardName: Drown in Darkness Cost: 1B Type: Instant Pow/Tgh: / Rules Text: Until end of turn, unused {b} isn't lost and all creatures get -1/-1 for each {b} you have. Flavour Text: In that hour was made a Darkness that seemed not lack but a thing with being of its own: for it was indeed made by malice out of Light, and it had the power to strangle the very will. Set/Rarity: Silmarillion: The War of the Jewels Rare

Drown in Darkness
{1}{b}
 
 R 
Instant
Until end of turn, unused {b} isn't lost and all creatures get -1/-1 for each {b} you have.
In that hour was made a Darkness that seemed not lack but a thing with being of its own: for it was indeed made by malice out of Light, and it had the power to strangle the very will.
Illus. Zdzislaw Beksinsk
Updated on 02 Dec 2017 by Tahazzar

Code: RB06

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History: [-]

2017-03-12 12:52:11: Tahazzar created the card Drown in Darkness
2017-03-14 09:45:15: Tahazzar edited Drown in Darkness
2017-05-19 09:43:28: Tahazzar edited Drown in Darkness:

"you get" -> "it produces"

2017-05-19 09:43:38: Tahazzar edited Drown in Darkness

I am a bit confused by this card. Do you mean that any excess black mana is carried over to your opponent's next upkeep, or does it remain in your mana pool until the end of your turn? Is the second clause a static effect that is applied whenever SBAs are checked for the rest of this turn, or is it a one shot effect during resolution. If it's the latter, it seems relatively easy to avoid the issue by just not adding mana to your mana pool until you need it.

Yes, the ability is a static effect.

> "Do you mean that any excess black mana is carried over to your opponent's next upkeep"

I don't know what this means... What in the card's wording lead you into considering that was the intent?

This uses the "updated" mana wording where mana pool is no longer referenced: mana just is and since there's no other place for it to be, it's pointless to mention where it is ie. to have a name for the place it is other than maybe in the comprehensive rules.

Okay, I see. So basically the effect is "Any black mana generated for the rest of this turn won't empty until you spend it."? Because it's an instant, it seems a little unclear to me which effect ends "until end of turn".

Yes.

The card text begins with the phrase "Until end of turn," so as to make it clear that it applies to everything that comes after it. Apparently it isn't working that well? How does being an instant make it any less clear? It's not like this is a "at the beginning of the next end step" instant you can pop on their end step to reap the rewards on your turn or anything like that.

It might be just confusion with your updated wording on my part. When I initially read this, I "translated" it as "Until end of turn, {b} mana doesn't empty from your mana pool as steps and phases end. Creatures get -1/-1 for each {b} in your mana pool.", which is why I asked the questions I did.

Well, all things considered, that effect might be a lot easier to understand. The current variation leaves much to be desired as far as "can I play this 3-drop without there being really any event in the game where there's three {b} in my mana pool?" I should check up how did the process of casting a spell go again...

on 30 Nov 2017 by SoulofZendikar:

Instant speed boardwipes are a big no no nowadays.

Instant speed, scalable, possibly one-sided, boardwipes for TWO MANA??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Eh, maybe Consume the Meek could be an apt comparison. The mono-{b} requirement restricts it a lot. It's no Toxic Deluge if that's what you're implying.

Also, please edit that ?????? character chain out since it's messing with the site's formating of posts.

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