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CardName: Obstinate Lurker Cost: 2B Type: Creature - Rogue Pow/Tgh: 2/2 Rules Text: When a spell or ability is activated, and would target Obstinate Lurker, or apply an effect to a category that includes Obstinate Lurker, counter it unless its controller pays {2} in addition to any other costs. Flavour Text: Mana, or it didn't happen. Set/Rarity: My Universe, My Rules Common

Obstinate Lurker
{2}{b}
 
 C 
Creature – Rogue
When a spell or ability is activated, and would target Obstinate Lurker, or apply an effect to a category that includes Obstinate Lurker, counter it unless its controller pays {2} in addition to any other costs.
Mana, or it didn't happen.
2/2
Updated on 18 Feb 2016 by Vitenka

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2010-11-09 12:50:15: someone created the card Obstinate Lurker
2010-11-09 12:50:15: someone created the card Obstinate Lurker
2010-11-09 12:50:15: someone created the card Obstinate Lurker

I suspect this wording won't work.

2010-11-09 12:50:33: Vitenka commented on Obstinate Lurker
2010-11-09 12:50:33: Vitenka commented on Obstinate Lurker

I think it works enough for an Un-set, but I think it'd cause the Rules Manager to start gibbering in black-bordered land.

2010-11-09 13:05:04: Chris commented on Obstinate Lurker
2010-11-09 13:05:04: Chris commented on Obstinate Lurker

I just want something that triggers if you hit it with untargetted removal, really.

2010-11-09 13:10:39: Vitenka commented on Obstinate Lurker
2010-11-09 13:10:39: Vitenka commented on Obstinate Lurker

You might be able to do something like "Spells and abilities treat ~ as if it were phased out. A player may pay 2 to ignore this effect for the resolution of one spell or ability."

2010-11-09 16:22:46: Alex commented on Obstinate Lurker
2010-11-09 16:22:46: Alex commented on Obstinate Lurker

Which works for that - but I want this to test the wording towards a creature that counters mass removal but can be singly removed.

2010-11-09 16:35:07: Vitenka commented on Obstinate Lurker
2010-11-09 16:35:07: Vitenka commented on Obstinate Lurker

How about something along the lines of this: Counter any untargetted spell or effect that would affect CARDNAME unless the spell or effects controller pays {2} ???

2010-12-24 02:38:04: Camruth commented on Obstinate Lurker
2010-12-24 02:38:04: Camruth commented on Obstinate Lurker

Or this: Obstinate Lurker cannot be affected by spells or abilities that do not target it. Spells or abilities that target Obstinate Lurker cost {2} more to cast and/or activate.

2010-12-30 12:04:46: DrugsForRobots commented on Obstinate Lurker
2010-12-30 12:04:46: DrugsForRobots commented on Obstinate Lurker

How about just "~ is unaffected by all spells and abilities unless their controller pays 2"? The problem is whether what counts as "affecting" it is well defined in players intuition and in the rules, and if those agree -- but do they? Would everyone agree that "gains flying" or "must block" or "can't be blocked" is an effect, but "number of creatures in play" isn't? The tricky thing is it harks back to the problems with the earliest versions of "protect": if effects refer to it without DOING anything to it, like "creatures you control can't be the target of spells and abilities" -- would that effect apply to this? I think it clearly wouldn't unless you pay. I'm not sure, and it's probably still "un" anyway, but I think it I think it may be clear enough.

2011-01-27 10:55:15: Vitenka edited Obstinate Lurker

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