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CardName: Mind Clutter Cost: 1uu Type: Instant Pow/Tgh: / Rules Text: Look at target opponent's hand, you may choose a nonland card from it. If you do, that player shuffles that card into their library, then draws a card Flavour Text: Set/Rarity: Naloxa Uncommon

Mind Clutter
Look at target opponent's hand, you may choose a nonland card from it. If you do, that player shuffles that card into their library, then draws a card
Updated on 20 Jul 2018 by Froggychum

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2017-10-11 23:27:08: Froggychum created the card Mind Clutter

Seems a bit strong when you compare Opportunity.

will change it to four for 6, will be an oppurtunity reprint

2017-10-12 19:27:08: Froggychum edited Mind Clutter

actually will be slightly more card draw

2017-10-12 19:27:22: Froggychum edited Mind Clutter

The comparisson with Opportunity is still valid.

Note that the number of cards would be written "five" on a proper Magic card rather than "5". Numerals are used for damage, life and converted mana cost (and obviously power/toughness) as well as when a number is a parameter of a keyword.

Counting cards/permanents/spells/etc. uses number words.

thanks, will put more energy into that from now on

2017-10-13 19:18:08: Froggychum edited Mind Clutter
2018-01-17 21:32:29: Froggychum edited Mind Clutter

I edited this to five because without the ability to scry or otherwise predict these cards, this ability is slightly worse, tell me if im still being stupid / stubborn (not trying to be, just wanna seperate it from opportunity)

I wonder if the cleaner wording for an equivalent effect would be, "Target player shuffles their library then draws five cards."

Or "Target player chooses five cards from their library at random and puts them into his or her hand." if you're heckbent on leaving the rest of library order intact. But that's a reeeeaaaal weird effect that has very little precedence in printed cards, if any.

Sure will do :D

2018-01-26 16:41:53: Froggychum edited Mind Clutter
2018-06-08 15:48:28: Froggychum edited Mind Clutter

Interestingly, I've seen this same effect (shuffle, then draw cards) being suggested in {r} and I also think I myself considered it way back then. Like {2}{r} Divination, but with shuffle as the first line. It has this 'randomish' feeling that's interesting. However, shuffling itself is something undesirable so that's an issue.

This is desirable for Cosi's Trickster decks

i suppose in general it's time consuming. This effect is very much in blue, though i could see red getting it. which is great because besides spells red and blue share next to nothing but this and maybe coinflips. also they dont even have a keyword.

some thoughts

2018-07-16 20:45:10: Froggychum edited Mind Clutter

Even if you were control multiple of copies of Cosi's Trickster, would you really want to cast this targeting your opponent and give them five cards? That's a card advantage loss of six in total since you also lose this card when you cast it.

Oops, i misread the card, thought this was for you. I suppose I could make this a card-disadvantage ability. that would be on-point flavorwise

2018-07-18 17:03:53: Froggychum edited Mind Clutter

> Target player puts three target permanents they own on the top of their library, then shuffles their library

This is effective permanent removal in blue. Including removal of lands and enchantments.

This would be brutal if this only targeted creatures and easier to cast one-sided than Hex in a color that isn't supposed to be good at solving creatures once they are on the battlefield.

Did you somehow forget the line about how this effect is followed by them getting three replacement permanents (Which still would make this a rare, but why isn't this already?)?

It seems like a common mistake to turn Oblation into mono-{u}. Even WotC did it with Spin into Myth (future-shifted card), but you know Time Spiral.

I'm quite partial to the idea of having a player shuffle their library for some sort of effect... but I don't really see it as a counterspell. Blue can definitely return stuff to hands, but that's not really sticking to my main goals, just trying to solve this imperfection.

I'll just reprint opportunity for the time being

2018-07-20 14:47:13: Froggychum edited Mind Clutter

"Target player draws three random cards"?

i think chalkdust suggested that, but i agree it's a bit weird. It fits flavor perfectly, and I believe it would activate cosi's trickster, so I think i might bite the bullet and have an odd little card like that

2018-07-20 14:59:03: Froggychum edited Mind Clutter

As a question, would this specifically be better at staying as four, going down to three as you wrote, or moving up to five (i'd assume five random cards is a lot worse than five actual cards, though thinking about it drawing is already quite random. this is slightly more so because it basically makes scrying and such useless for this one play, so maybe five would be fair? but it also feels a bit too much)

i think i'll keep at four for now

Now you have to still explain how to make that card text happen. If I have this card in hand from some deck I have been handed, I don't know what to do. Just drawing cards apparently is not enough, but I don't know how to make the card draw any more random without shuffling (and if shuffling was what I was supposed to do, then why isn't it written on there?) Maybe I'm supposed to use dice or and count cards out of my library?

I figured it would be the same process as discarding cards at random, which i've never actually learned how to do...

You shuffle your hand and let the opponent choose.

With a deck, if you have no visibility, you just draw. If you do know some of the top cards, you shuffle then draw.

hm. i'm not a super fan of this design right now... maybe: Target player draws a card then shuffles their library, repeat this process three times?

No, that would be incredibly long to do

2018-07-20 15:42:17: Froggychum edited Mind Clutter


Yeah, I typed my comment while the most recent change was made and now it's redundant. Opportunity is a fine card. Though the name is a bit lacking. Or inversely: Mind Clutter could be somewhat "more".

Oh, i didn't even see it, so i guess there's no problem ?

I totally agree the name could be much more. I've been trying for something that would trigger Cosi's Trickster, because shuffling would be very flavorfully 'cluttered / tricked' and i just need to find a wway for it to mechanically function

Draw (some) card. Then shuffle your hand.

­Cosi's Trickster is not triggered by shuffling a hand. And also not by shuffling your own stuff.

I think I'd go for something like Vendilion Clique if that was my stated goal.

Perfect! Just what I was looking for!

2018-07-20 17:05:51: Froggychum edited Mind Clutter

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