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Oh, I agree. I'm just saying that 'tactical' isn't grokable as 'fast'. It doesn't even mean 'fast', as far as the dictionary is concerned. There are some people grok 'tactical' as fast. That might be reason enough to promote a word as a keyword... I don't know.
Had it been the way things were, I probably wouldn't think too hard about it (knowing me, I'd pick up a dictionary and re-learn the word... but getting picky over the word wouldn't stop me from accepting it.) But since the discussion is "Should we use this word?" my reaction is "No. There's probably a better word out there to use." But it isn't like I'd get upset if tactical was used. It does the job.
fixating and misunderstanding one of many definitions of a words doesn't disqualify the word. in fact, expedient doesn't imply how quickly something is done--another of your misunderstandings.
as long as it sounds smooth, is flavorful and generally grokkable. just like not all creature cards are actually creatures, not all enchantments are actually enchantments, not all instants sound instant.
Dunno about "slow and deliberate" Versus "Completely unplanned" perhaps.
I think tactical would be a good choice, but I'd not noticed until jmg pointed it out it might also be confusing.
FWIW, I guess the distinction is something like "tactical vs non-tactical" makes tactical sound slow and deliberate, but "tactical vs strategic" makes tactical sound fast and incisive.
Ah, I did not know that. I associate the word tactical with the word 'tactics'... something that normally takes time to establish. I went to Dictionary.com to get a better understanding of the word and ended up with this result:
Definition four: Expedient; calculated.
That... makes me scratch my head. Expedient sounds fast. Calculated sounds slow. What a weird word. It kind of means both fast and slow depending on the context. For example:
"When the enemy began to open fire, the captain made a tactical landing."
Compared to: "After months of deliberation, the Ouya development team made a tactical decision: Ignore the greater gaming community, and redouble their focus on casual game players and modders."
'Tactical Nukes' are an enigma of themselves. It never occurred to me that they were fast nukes, which they are. I always thought they were precision strike nukes... which they are. I guess what I'm saying is that 'tactical' has a lot of baggage strapped to it, as far as words go.
basic land types.
equipment and fortifications (attachments in general) have collateral rules.
tactical nukes are supposed to be deployed in a moment's notice, as opposed to strategic nukes. (wikipedia) police tactical units are deployed to quell riots and other emergencies (wikipedia) both usages match perfectly for our purposes, that is, tactical orders are issued during quick and/or reactionary responses.
how is design space lost? for which is lost can also be gained. Maneuvers handle both tactical and nontactical. e.g. search for a Maneuver. same as Tactical itself. e.g. return a Tactical card in your graveyard to your hand. you can return a Tactical Unit or tactical devices.
I believe that Aura is the only subtype with rules attached.
I'm pretty sure there's a perfect word for normal Magic, but it would take a few days with a thesaurus to tease it out. DnD uses 'Quickened', which sounds better, but has it's own faults. Personally, I don't have a problem with "Interrupt" if used as a sub-type maybe? "Sorcery - Interrupt" sounds fine. "Creature - Human Warrior Interrupt" does not, unfortunately.
For space, I'm not a fan of 'Tactical'. It doesn't really tell you anything. A tactical nuke isn't exactly a very fast nuke, for example. Perhaps 'Hyper' would do a better job? "Hyper Unit" and "Hyper Device" works equally for me.
I understand where Maro is coming from with that, but I've never really been a fan of the idea. For one thing, "Instant Creature" sounds bizarre, like something you'd make for breakfast. They'd have to think of a new name. For another, there is a bit of design space lost in removing Instant as its own card type.
I have to say, though, that in the S: TC context, Tactical Maneuver sounds pretty neat.
Maro once said that if they started over, Instant would actually be a supertype. so there would Instant Sorcery, Instant Creature, Instant Enchantment, etc. Flash keyword is no longer necessary.
For Space: TC, since we are in a sense starting over, we could borrow this idea. Instant as a supertype would be called Tactical in Space. Sorcery becomes Maneuver. Thus we have sorcery speed Maneuver, and instant speed Tactical Maneuver. We could also have Tactical Unit (flash creatures), Tactical Device (flash artifact), etc.
Other terms suggestions: cast a spell = issue an order put = deploy
For style: Locate a resource within your archives, and teleport it to the warzone, where it is immediately engaged.
I think this says this should say:
Search your archives for a resource card and put it into the warzone engaged.
(They don't seem to have an alternative term for "search", but we could make one up too if we wanted.)
Shouldn't it be "Device Unit?"