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Not upcosting - it's setting that thing's cost to 4. So if you're exiled Pelakka Wurm or Myojin of Life's Web to cast a Vine Dryad on turn 1, then you can cast this as J. Exiled Big Thing on turn 4.
Uh, eww?
So it's both too good, and too expensive. I'm not a fan.
I really don't think this wording works as well as mine, but I'm not a rules guru. I could be wrong.
Choosing targets is not reminder text, gains reminder text to mention paying 2WU
Okay, I think I just thought it didn't make sense to "cast" something as a copy of something else. Normally, "cast" means going through the whole process, including choosing modes and targets and paying the cost. After all, cast triggers only work after all that is done. So what you'd want would be something like "You may put ~ on the stack as a copy...". At that point, my template seems much more clear.
That said, when thinking about the reason, I realized my version does the replacement after all the casting is done (including paying
), so choosing targets needs to be explicitly mentioned and not be reminder text. Plus, paying this card's original mana cost could be made more clear.
If you try to abuse this with the minimal X, it's just Treasure Hunt minus 1 life, so have fun. :P
Actually, I came with the wording as it is because I think it wasn't as powerful as I wanted. (The problem with X spells costing at least X+1.)
Hmm. Can I build a deck with four of this, and ridiculously powerful card and the rest land; mulligan to this and get a turn 2 win?
Ah; good - no, no I can't, because I still need to cast the thing I draw.
Lifeloss should probably be the CMC of the cards you drew; because demonic pacts biting you on the ass is cooler :)
For example, if X=3, you can get Walking Corpse, Swamp, Swamp, Shadowborn Demon and still only lose 3 life. Because cheating demonic pacts is cool.
I wasn't sure about that last line, but I really wanted everyone to get something exciting each time. Otherwise, hitting two consecutive lands while your opponent gets two six-drops is not going to be that fun.
With that in mind, I am willing to risk a player getting many lands in a row.
What if someone just got really lucky and ended up with every single land??
I love it.
Hm, Dimensional Breach meets Thieves' Auction at random. Ends up something like a gradual Scrambleverse.
Balance meets Mind Control. I tried about five different wordings until I got here, by the way.
I'd be interesting to know what the reason was, if you think if it. It seems like it would have a lot less issues.
I'm not sure why I didn't go with that templating, but I think I had a reason. Although I hadn't though about the awkward mana cost exception.
I meant that many cards can only be played in Legacy and Vintage, in which case you probably have better things to do than exile-reanimating. Then you could narrow it down to Modern, but limit your options much more. If you try this in any given Standard, you probably have only one or two enablers, probably bad. What I tried to say was that it would be fun for people to see where to exploit this, not that it would be difficult to find the cards assuming a Vintage card pool.
Serum Powder would go well with this, too.
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Shiny_Umbreon, no card is too old or too scarce to appear on the gatherer.
It's bizarre that this can "become" a spell. If I was attempting to write the rules text, I would write "You may cast ~ as a copy of any face-up exiled nonland card, except its mana cost is still
On one hand, this might be easier to use than it appears, which isn't that cool. But on the other hand, the cards mentioned are old and scarce enough that people would have to know in what format and with what cards to break this.
UncleIstvan: is it that weird that it can become spells? Maybe if the card isn't a creature normally and just a sorcery it would feel more natural?
(See bringer.dec; you really do care ;)
Or just Demonic Consultation or Spoils of the Vault. If your deck is stuffed with crazy fatties, you don't much care which one you get on turn 4.
Extract ftw.
I get that it's supposed to be breaking some new ground, but I would prefer if it only copied permanents, just because turning permanents into non-permanent spells is strange to me.
I thought about it. But I figured that exiling specific things was harder enough (and being multicolored helps, although this may still be the best color combination to make such a deck to make this work like that, so it maybe isn't that much of a drawback).
I guess this could fluctuate between CMC 3-5 depending on the cards around it (and the impact they want it to have) if it were to be printed for real.
Whee. Might need Body Double's CMC for potential reanimator-style bypassing of mana costs (in a way that most Clones don't). But this is very interesting, anyway.