Wow simic needs this and it just got 100x more powerful :D

I wouldn't have gone with Elemental but I don't know much just from the name :D (enchantment creature is a nice touch, if a bit confusing)

my idea for the flavor for this card is this: its a summon of kruphix on theros, and has an important role in the world, not yet enough to be legendary. sorta like chromanticore

way to blend it into the canon! this definitely is something kruphix-esque

You may reveal that card might need to be in there?

In the absence of lands that come into play face-down, I think you're safe.

I don't think so. I don't think it works at all:

A: (Draws a card.) "Oh, yeah, drawing a land card right now. Totally am going to put that card onto the battlefield now."
B: "In response." (Activates Greel, Mind Raker to make them discard a card at random.)
A: (Randomly discards a land.) "So... well... I'll now put a land card from my hand onto the battlefield, but don't worry! It's the one I have just drawn. The one I discarded has been in my hand for a while."
B: "... I can't know that. Randomization is supposed to keep that information from me."

Randomness has always confused me in this game... Maybe make it an activated ability to be less problematic? ­: Put a land card from your hand OTB tapped

The idea is that it improves card draw, allowing you to do something simic has always wanted to do, but never been able to print :] it is a triggered ability, because of it having the synergies with card draw. The idea is that you cannot play endless lands (like with Fastbond) but it needs you to have engines going and possibly topdeck manipulation. Balance is key, but i did say expect op flashy mythics. Thanks for the feedback, guys!

oh yeah it doesn't allow endless land play.. disappointing realization for me, i dont know what to do with all these lands on my hands!

(this is my 1st time hearing of fastbond so i guess i do have a solution!)

Or go with the evenmore exciting:

"Play with the top card of your deck face-up. When it's a land card, you may put it into play tapped."

THAT IS A GREAT FIX! TAKE IT! TAKE IT!

Or to be closer to the original:

> Play with the top card of your library revealed.
If you would draw a land card, you may put it onto the battlefield tapped instead.

I actually like Vitenka's more. It is farther from the original, but yours seems to have 2 abilities, which it seems is both unnecessary (why do you need to have the top revealed for the second ability to work this time around) and unsynergetic (they don't have much to do with one another, or im missing it)

wow, this card sure got a lot of attention :)

I will edit the card so that it reveals the lands

The top of deck thing is really cool, but i like the idea of playing them from your hand, because if you stack your deck, you can play like ten lands in a row. This ability requires you to draw those cards, which will need other engines or spells.

Thanks everyone, the discussion is appreciated!

> I actually like Vitenka's more. It is farther from the original, but yours seems to have 2 abilities

Not saying anything else, but correctly written Vitenka's version also would be two abilities: One static ability that continuously reveals the top card of the library and one triggered ability starting with "When".

> The top of deck thing is really cool, but i like the idea of playing them from your hand, because if you stack your deck, you can play like ten lands in a row. This ability requires you to draw those cards, which will need other engines or spells.

That's why my version also requires a card draw - and logistically works to boot.

This is all true Horizon Watcher will stay as is, this being how i originally intended it to function, but your merits help a whole lot. :D Perhaps you have given me some ideas...

Fair enough. My suggestion did have two clauses already; but they feel very closely coupled, so I can see why it looked like one.

But sure, this is a fine card. Oh! I wonder if you could almost have written it "Land cards in your deck have miracle"?

hm i think that stops it from allowing you to dump your hand, good connection to existing mechanic tho

also wurms u dont need to reveal a land if you are going to play it, it is visible if in play, i'd take out the middleman

some new thoughts on this card: i like that it is optional to put it OTB, at first i didnt like the revealing part because if you were to put it OTB there would be no reason to reveal it, but for the earlier reason i now like it because flexibility.

also i am tempted to say you should add 'otherwise, put it into your hand' at the end, but then i remembered you are drawing it, so that would be uneccesary all-inall nice card

thanks!

i think you might need a comma between land card and you may

Abilities can't trigger from hidden zones. At least, hidden cards can't. That's why miracle reveals the card when you draw it.

Needs miracle tech:

> You may reveal a land card from your hand as you draw it. When you reveal a card this way, you may put it onto the battlefield tapped.

Sounds pretty wonky, but if I'm reading the miracle rulings right, that's how it's actually worded. The reveal obviously can't be mandatory as it 'triggers' from a hidden zone.

oh, my bad. i gave bad advice, the previous edit was fine i guess

I'm quite certain this still doesn't work. Ie. Qasali Ambusher is worded as it is because "Whenever a creature attacks you" wouldn't do anything while the card is in your hand (unrevealed). Similarly even the reminder text of miracle makes no allusions to any kind of 'whenever' trigger.

The actual rules text of miracle is

>702.93. Miracle

>>702.93a Miracle is a static ability linked to a triggered ability (see rule 603.11). “Miracle [cost]” means “You may reveal this card from your hand as you draw it if it’s the first card you’ve drawn this turn. When you reveal this card this way, you may cast it by paying [cost] rather than its mana cost.”

>>702.93b If a player chooses to reveal a card using its miracle ability, they play with that card revealed until that card leaves their hand, that ability resolves, or that ability otherwise leaves the stack.

You need to follow Tahazzar's template exactly for the card to work correctly

i'm still being unhelpful. i'll see myself out with my confusing words. listen to these smartiepants instead

Whenever Froggychum gives advice, ignore it, and listen to dude1818 or Tahazzar instead

Also dude1818 i saw you on blogatog :D

cool cool