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CardName: Batman Cost: {W}{B} Type: Creature - Human Knight Pow/Tgh: 3/1 Rules Text: First-strike. If a creature dealt damage by Batman would die this turn, return it to its owner's hand instead. {1}{B}: Return Batman from your graveyard onto the battlefield tapped. Flavour Text: Set/Rarity: Superhero Rare

Batman
{w}{b}
 
 R 
Creature – Human Knight
First-strike.
If a creature dealt damage by Batman would die this turn, return it to its owner's hand instead.
{1}{b}: Return Batman from your graveyard onto the battlefield tapped.
Illus. DC
3/1
Updated on 28 Aug 2014 by 10vernothin

Code: RB02

History: [-]

2014-08-19 04:42:01: 10vernothin created and commented on the card Batman

This one is full of puns.

2014-08-19 04:42:14: 10vernothin edited Batman

Batman is blue.

But he's the Dark Knight!

2014-08-20 18:33:03: 10vernothin edited Batman

I still think he's blue.

2014-08-20 21:44:44: 10vernothin edited Batman
2014-08-26 22:02:50: 10vernothin edited Batman

I'd argue Batman is more white than blue. Imo he uses money at least as much as a tool as he uses his mind and his motivations stem way more from a desire for justice and moralic behaviour than from a desire to acquire knowledge or to improve himself.

Yes, he has genius-level intellect but I think it requires way more to be smarter than a Hill Giant to be a blue character. Also many of the ways Batman uses his intellect could be interpreted as knowledge of strategy and combat/weapons which is white's domain.

Batman is constantly using his savvy and intellect to defeat foes. I agree completely that he is blue/black. He may do white things, but he does then for what I see as blue/black reasons. Also, he's basically a ninja.

I think there's several different aspects of Batman, and different comics and different films have shown very different aspects.

Detective batman plans everything out in advance and always wins by being Just That Good, and understanding human nature, and having the right piece of kryptonite planned away. I think detective batman is blue.

Revenge batman is consumed by the desire to avenge his parents and destroy the criminal element in gotham. He can still be a good, moral character if what he's doing is worthwhile, but he still makes it all about him -- brooding, alone, always fighting one-on-one rather than relying on allies or the justice system. Revenge batman is black.

Good batman is genuinely committed to a just, stable society and fights in that cause (even when he's forced to fight outside the law, he's committed to his own code, eg. no guns). He's white.

I think there's even a red batman who's living impulsively, driven by his emotions for his parents, and passionately righting the wrongs in front of him while avoiding thinking whether that's a sustainable long term plan.

I think different interpretations are quite different. I think of Batman as black, based on the Nolan films, and maybe even the 60s TV series. But Rosewater says W or W with U, presumably based on the comics. I think either can work. Although I don't think you can combine W and B easily because they have Batman coming from different motivations. And I think it's harder to have revenge-detective batman than good-detective batman because the methodical planning goes better with "reform society" than "brooding", but it's a legitimate possible interpretation.

I think with Batman there's no one correct answer, since I think different comics and films actually have Batman in different colours while still being Batman. (Whereas other characters vary in other ways but are always the same colour.)

The obvious thing to do here is creature type "Batman" and have an entire set of nothing but. For the obvious "I'm batman!" chants.

I got nuthin.

Anyway - sure, a planning-revenge batman who just can't EVER be stopped, and never kills? That hits a couple of his tropes. No problem with that.

I think it all comes down to whether you want to display Bruce Wayne in the card or if you want to display the Batman.

Batman uses fear and violence (but never death) as his tools - which is clearly black - in order to fight crime, according to his moral system, for the greater good of Gotham - which is white. Rosewater calls this "white goals but a black persona".

Bruce Wayne on the other hand is acting while he is Batman. Bruce is not violent, nor is he fearsome, yet he displays this as Batman, as part of a thought-out system to gain psychological advantage over his foes. He indeed is the thinker and does most of the work of the detective role. His motivations can range from revenge to justice, as explained by Jack V.

I guess for most secret identity superheroes it is very hard - if not impossible - to display both personas in one card without going for a specific interpretation (in this case be it the Nolan movies, the 60s series, his portrayal in a specific comic storyline or whatever).

Oh, this is the BATMAN, not bruce wayne. Hence, he's not legendary.

I was trying to play off the fact that Batman is a symbol, and how Batman has a lineup that is only rivaled by Robin.

Being that, the only knowledge I have of Batman is the Nolan films and the one with the Penguin.

I can make him W/B instead of U/B.

u/b feels weird with batman . Feels more like Lex Luther or Loki

2014-08-28 01:18:35: 10vernothin edited Batman

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