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CardName: Defiled Forest #2 Cost: Type: Land Pow/Tgh: / Rules Text: Defiled Forest #2 enters the battlefield tapped unless you return a land you control to its owner's hand. {t}: Add {g} or {b} to your mana pool. Flavour Text: Set/Rarity: Yet another card dump (Circeus's) Rare

Defiled Forest #2
 
 R 
Land
Defiled Forest #2 enters the battlefield tapped unless you return a land you control to its owner's hand.
{t}: Add {g} or {b} to your mana pool.
Created on 09 Jul 2014 by Circeus

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2014-07-09 14:08:20: Circeus created and commented on the card Defiled Forest #2

Different take on Defiled Forest.

Oh, that's an interesting idea. It can either be an ETB tapped dual, or a land that fixes your mana without accelerating you (but slightly better than ones that cost "{1},{t}" because it sets you back a turn, but not a land card, but worse because those mostly produce any colour).

It looks like an interesting idea to me, but I'm too cross-eyed to see if it's strictly better or strictly worse than something else.

Very nice. Sometimes it's Gilt-Leaf Palace without Elves, sometimes it's Darigaaz's Caldera without {r}; so that's a bit worse in both cases, but getting your choice between them is rather excellent.

I was momentarily confused by the reference to the tribal land, but I know what you mean :) People wouldn't like a plain "ETB tapped, no upside" land, but it would make it easier to have a name to refer to in this sort of conversation. I think now I'd usually call them "gates" as outside RTR that's basically what they are.

Oh yes, I forgot about Golgari Guildgate and friends. I still think of them as the Coastal Tower cycle, but that only existed for allied colours, and I completely blanked on the Guildgates! But yes, that's what I meant!

Ah! I'd forgotten that cycle too, somehow, that's an even better expression (although it doesn't work for enemy colours).

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