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CardName: Cave Troll Cost: 2R Type: Creature - Troll Pow/Tgh: 3/4 Rules Text: At the beginning of the end step, if Cave Troll is in play, exile it. At the beginning of your declare attackers step, if Cave Troll is exiled, put it into play tapped and attacking. Flavour Text: Set/Rarity: Magic 20XX Uncommon

Cave Troll
{2}{r}
 
 U 
Creature – Troll
At the beginning of the end step, if Cave Troll is in play, exile it.
At the beginning of your declare attackers step, if Cave Troll is exiled, put it into play tapped and attacking.
3/4
Created on 03 Sep 2012 by jmgariepy

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2012-09-03 02:44:02: jmgariepy created the card Cave Troll

Cave Troll hides in his cave. Evidently, it's a pretty deep cave. When the Wrath of God comes, he's fiddling around, playing spin the skull. Later, when he pokes out of his hole, there are no creatures left in the world, which doesn't matter much, since he was going to attack the first Planeswalker he saw either way.

He did cause me to occasionally spell out the rules for some players, though. Yes, you must proceed through a combat step until the declare attackers step is over. If you chose not to attack with creatures, then we can skip the rest of combat. Little problems. At least I didn't make this guy a common 3/3.

Wow. A 3/4 that's immune to sorcery-speed removal? With the only drawback being that... hmm, I guess it's "attacks each turn if able". Seems pretty good.

"Attacks each turn if able" AND "Can't attack alone" are an interesting combination.

But it's not "can't attack alone". You have to play all the way through the declare attackers step; it's just declare blockers and onwards that get skipped if there are no attackers. And I believe the Comp Rules now understand that if something ETBs attacking during declare attackers, that still counts as there being an attacker so that you don't skip the rest of combat.

Yeah; you have to have had a few "Declare attackers; (wait to see if opponent wastes a response); no attackers." games to understand that's legal.

Does seem a bit odd. And I'd like to try to see something that WAS both of those things.

... Relentless Orgg so I did.

I don't think that's quite right. In Vitenka's example, you're conflating the beginning of combat step and the declare attackers step. Once the declare attackers step begins, all attacking creatures are declared before spells can be cast or abilities can be used or triggered. If the creatures are attacking, I thought your immediately terminated combat and went to the second main phase.

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