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CardName: Talisman of Recoiling Cost: 2 Type: Artifact Pow/Tgh: Rules Text: T: Add U or B to your mana pool. 1UB,T, Sacrifice Talisman of Recoiling: Return target creature to its owner's hand. Then that player discards a card. Flavour Text: Set/Rarity: Evolution Uncommon

Talisman of Recoiling
{2}
 
 U 
Artifact
T: Add U or B to your mana pool.
1UB,T, Sacrifice Talisman of Recoiling: Return target creature to its owner's hand. Then that player discards a card.
Updated on 18 Feb 2016 by Veredictum

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2010-12-09 08:17:11: Veredictum created the card Talisman of Recoiling
2010-12-09 08:17:11: Veredictum created the card Talisman of Recoiling
2010-12-09 08:17:11: Veredictum created the card Talisman of Recoiling

Nice cycle. The power level is a bit high though. Did Talisman of Dominance really need this much of an upgrade? The normal rule of converting landmana artifacts is that the artifact costs 2: see Underground RiverTalisman of Dominance, Prismatic LensShimmering Grotto, etc. Following that principle, this cycle is better than the original duals, as they can cast iconically powerful spells as well...

2010-12-09 15:22:19: Alex commented on Talisman of Recoiling
2010-12-09 15:22:19: Alex commented on Talisman of Recoiling

Yeah power lever is a bit high, ive been wanting to lower it down but dont know how without making them bad, i think making them 3 mana makes them almost completely unplayable, the only way they can cost 3 is to make the sacrifice abilities cheaper, but in order to prevent monocolored decks from using that ability it would have to cost a minimum of 2 mana so its still weak, any thoughts on how to lower the power level on this cycle without making them unplayable?

2010-12-11 13:46:16: Veredictum commented on Talisman of Recoiling
2010-12-11 13:46:16: Veredictum commented on Talisman of Recoiling

Make the mana ability painful. That way it's not a strict upgrade on Talisman of Dominance, which has a painless generic mana ability in addition to the painful coloured one.

2010-12-13 15:13:04: Chris commented on Talisman of Recoiling
2010-12-13 15:13:04: Chris commented on Talisman of Recoiling

Hmm yeah that would work really well, since they wouldnt have an option to give colorless, they wouldnt be strictly better.

2010-12-14 06:37:42: Veredictum commented on Talisman of Recoiling
2010-12-14 06:37:42: Veredictum commented on Talisman of Recoiling

I agree 3 mana would be very bad. I really like the sac ability on mana stones - Mind Stone is fantastic for that reason. I think either Chris's suggestion of restoring the pain, or the Sky Diamond option of making them ETB tapped, would make them fairer while still very playable.

2010-12-15 12:44:49: Alex commented on Talisman of Recoiling
2010-12-15 12:44:49: Alex commented on Talisman of Recoiling

I'd go with the pain option to make them similar to the other Talismans without a painless generic option.

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