Those full size image mockups are HUGE!

Effects-wise... Huh, drain-life-and-card. I like it. Not sure the 'if you spent' is worth the complexity over making it just got though.

It matters if you're playing Shadowmoor limited ... and that's about it

Do you people need a crash course on the difference between hybrid and gold?

This card is a personality test.

Yes; obviously technically it's different. But at 4 mana, you probably have both if you want to. It doesn't feel like it's an interesting enough card to play pure white or pure black.

And... huh. Bug. By flicking back and forth betwen the 'seriously oversized card image' and mockup views, I can glitch the mockup into no longer displaying. How odd.

There's no reason to play this in a deck that isn't both black and white. You'll never cast this without paying both colors

That being the case, one of the few places where a player might appreciate having a hybrid cost on this card would be if you were playing four or five colors... because you want the effect, but it's possible you might be missing a color.

In those scenarios, the casting cost is still wonky, because of the 2HH cost. If you're playing said 5color deck, you wouldn't want your cards to be as committed to W/B. would make more sense there.

Second aside: I wonder if Vitenka and Dude's response wouldn't be as dramatic if this card was a common or uncommon. There one could argue that this spell could get some use in a mono-color draft deck as filler, or as a boost if a third color happened to appear.

As a matter of fact, all of the cards from Shadowmoor and Eventide that did this were uncommons. That seems telling.

This card's effect implies card draw is to white what discard is to black, where card draw is supposedly a weakness of white. In fact a "Drain a card"-effect is more likely to be mono-black than white-black due to white neither boisting draw nor discard as its effects.

See Unhinge.

Or, you could just think of this as a combination of Revitalize and a black spell that probably costs .

This is a cantrip. It's irregular for white to be attached to the 'draw a card' side of things. But that's far from being 'wrong'.

so you really never ever seen a white card that gains life and draw a card? what about Blessed Wine, Convalescent Care, Dawn of Hope, Prophecy, Resupply, Revitalize, Reviving Dose, Ritual of Rejuvenation, Spiritual Focus, Spiritualize, Survival Cache.

Damn I'm out of breath.

I'm sure you were replying to someone there, amuseum, but since you mostly use your posts to just talk down to people, I assume you aren't interested in discussing the merits, but just feeling superior by acting smug.

What is your position then other than that you think others are inferior and that the point someone made just before you bears repeating, but in a more obnoxious way?

"I paid and all I got for it was a cantrip 3 life" T-shirt?

Yeah yeah, I know, flexibility makes it worth it. And the symmetry of the effect is pleasing.

I already gave strong opinions about the SPIRIT of the card. Everybody ignored the CARDNAME, ART, FLAVOR TEXT, the SOURCE MATERIAL (Lord of the Rings.)

but y'all keep yammering about pointless color pie crap. that's why there is no merits to your vapid discussions.

Yeah, does insulting people usually works to get them to come around? Because I'm not surprised people didn't feel like commenting on the other stuff you apparently care about after their input was rudely dismissed.

Well yeah, flavor is the least important part of designing a card. Flavor justifies nothing, and using a flavor argument to defend a bad design merely demonstrates inexperience, or arrogance once you've been corrected once already

The art is from the art book. (One of the? I'm sure there's more than one). So, well, of course it is? And the quote is from the scene there pictured.

And, I mean - it's a nice picking up of a minor quote from that scene. But then it's taking one word from that, making it the card name, and trying to give that a purpose. Which is, well, to leech 3 life.

So it's workmanlike, but not massively inspired; in terms of choosing the flavour.

I guess it would have been less intresting to directly interpret the scene, as some kind of tap-down card, or creature control card. Especially as we don't see the set-up for it, only the king being a bit of an arse to Gandalf, and later breaking free.

The mood and timing of the illustration doesn't really coincide with the quote. The image seems like it depicts Grima very much in control, which is fitting to the cardname and effect, but the quote is about Theoden breaking free from the influence and that pretty much seems like an ill fit.