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Reverse planeswalkers it is. This is very similar to a card type I created: You could "attack" the permanent you yourself control for a reward.
I always was unhappy that allowing your opponents to block made the card type weak in multiplayer. They solved that by introducing a "protector". That's nice.
There will be different variants of battles it seems. I'm looking forward to read up on which aspects of the card we got are inherent to all battles and which parts are tied to Siege specifically.
We should switch to getting images from Scryfall instead of Gatherer, then I could just link to previewed cards :)
Universal Salvation
Card128589 (this one I like best)
Card129519
Card138364
Card138718
Mathematical Puzzlement
Card140005
Also, some of my cards mention things that are in the rules but are hardly or never mentioned in the text of official cards (such as "special action", "timestamp", etc), and stuff mostly only found in older cards (such as "bands with other").
The file name has a
.jpgsuffix, but the MIME type isimage/webp. So, I installed thewebppackage, but then, it cannot read from stdin, so I need to store a copy of the file and then convert it; however, output to stdout does work, so storing a copy of the converted file is not necessary.The reminder text does not explain much, but it gives some idea of its working. I will hope to see the actual rules later, since then it would be explained better, probably. (I can see why they made a new type, though.) One thing that I notice is that it has a subtype, and the reminder text mentions the subtype.
We now know what battles are: Invasion of Zendikar
You play the battle, get an etb effect, and assign an opponent to defend. Any other player can then attack the battle. When its defeated, it transforms and you get the spell on the back
I'm all caught up for over a year.
How about you check out a booster of [Tribute] Arnath and leave some feedback?
I expected a true crossover between planes, e. g. Thalia riding Ghalta, but the shared-plane pairings of legendary creatures are also fine.
The Praetor DFCs are neat, though the Sagas might feel a bit like a planeswalkers ultimate: Rarely relevant to the cards actual power level.
I really like the way off-color Phyrexian mana is used on the Compleation DFCs.
I really enjoy the use of flavor text on the common land cycle - introducing us to ten of the planes getting invaded (though there are more, as we know from the names of some art associated with the set).
Battles in MOM (some, most, all?) are confirmed to be double faced. So yeah, I already dislike them.
I guess this implies the back side is the "reward" for completing some goal on the front side.
My only hunch is that battles are something that changes combat, and that you (and possibly the opponent) assign creatures to, like Raging River.
I think a cute idea is a "reverse planeswalker". Battles just a permanents on the battlefield and you can "attack" a batte you control to add counters to it, while your opponent can block.
Then at certain thresholds you get effects similar to Sagas; you just have to go through combat to advance the battle.
It's more simple than my above suggestion.
An interesting new tidbit about battles is the new arts we've seen that's probably for them. It's horizontally oriented, and makes me think of planar cards. Planes themselves are just really similar to global symmetric enchantments though, so no idea what to make of that.
I think it will be representing individual planes fighting the phyrexians. You and the opponent will be on one side or another of the war perhaps having to do a sidequest similar to a mix of an enchantments saga and dungeon mechanic to "win" the battle.
Sup folks,
Share some of your cards that showcase your unique style as a designer. To link cards, type "C" plus its ID (found in the url) between triple parentheses, like ( ( ( C 1 2 3 4 5 ) ) ) without spaces.
Mana Leek
Contract for a Soul
Wandering Spider
Most of my designs are commons, as I play mainly Pauper and Limited. I really enjoy simple cards. Also, my main interests are the mechanical color pie, and exploring how each color approaches their strengths and limitations.
MaRo has been on record for a while that this will bring about a lasting change both in-world and to the game.
So far everything is on a course to fulfill my earlier prediction that the multiverse will "shrink".
If they somehow manage to nerf the Glistening Oil, they can even keep the Phyexians around as a reasonably-powered but interplanar villain for a while - addressing the Praetors individually, but based on earlier comments they want to end the arc here (with Aftermath).
They also stated that the next set(s) will deal with the ramifications, so undoing ONE & MOM with time travel seems off the table.
I'm also really happy to see more Planechase. Perfect spot for it, and combining these additional formats with commander decks aims them at the correct audience.
Yeah, I'm REALLY hoping this has long-lasting ramifications and that it's not all somehow magically reversed somehow.
New Planechase!
Spoilers!
Planar boundaries are getting breached!
I like what I see so far. No set-specific keywords, though Phyrexian Mana and and TDFCs are in the set.
Battles yet to be revealed.
From a lore perspective, the amount of change to the invaded planes already looks too big to be satisfyingly reversed by a Deus ex Machina ending.
The latter is how Hearthstone feels a lot of the time
For me the paradox is I really love deck building, especially finding interesting uses of cards from a set, but I don't like chasing or buying to collect the cards you need.
In theory I like the idea from early magic of "I have these cards, you have those cards, a small proportion of the total pool, what's the most effective I can be with them". But it feels like in practice it comes down to "who has more cards" or "the designers basically built this deck and you do or don't find the key pieces"
If I'm actually enjoying a mobile game, I'm happy to pay something, even up to battle pass levels some of the time. But only for a reasonable "this much per this", its constant drip of pushing ridiculously pricy upgrades is awful.
Marvel Snap's monetization is annoying. You can only buy cosmetic upgrades, not new cards, so it should be fine ... except you need the cosmetic upgrades to unlock new cards
I needed something to pass time today and finally downloaded Marvel Snap. It's not bad, though it seems getting the cards is slow and I don't like spending money on mobile games.
I used to play Elder Scrolls: Legends from its release until about a year after we got the news that it was dead and the last monthlies had been rolled out. I liked Skyrim and was interested by the lore, but the mechanics weren't balanced and the meta got boring, which had already been at risk even before Jaws of Oblivion's release.
so we just list other CCGs we've ever played or liked?
Ultimate Combat! fast paced emulation of martial arts. Each turn you try to chain as many cards into a powerful strike against opponent.
Gridiron is American football. but with humor. ex. Dallas team is bunch of convicts. so they can get away with penalties. players take turns playing offense or defense. offense chooses pass or rush. cards have symbols, and defense tries to guess what play the offense chose, and what symbols are most abundant. offense gains X yards depending on play chosen and success or failure.
Shadowfist goal is to gain control of Sites. Some artists for Magic also illustrated for Shadowfist. Various factions ranging from Hong Kong triads, to aliens, to elemental gods, etc. Very solid and flavorful game for duels (multiplayer needs rules tweaks).
Pokemon only played on Gameboy. Pretty good adventure mode. Except late game AI cheats with coin flips. (I have designed a CCG inspired by their zone layouts. i.e. uses a main "battlefield" and reserves).
Guardians has amazing art, arguably still the best looking cards in any card game to date. Three factions in roughly rock-paper-scissor struggle. Form armies and vie over terrains between the players. Very strong humor. Solid strategy (although after expansions, some factions were overpowered.)
Also worth mentioning Arcomage, the card game within Might and Magic 7/8. Defend your tower while blowing up your opponent's.
Dragon Dice is collectible dice. Different sizes, shapes, and colors. Even had a computer game. Chucking physical dice is great feeling.
Played many other CCGs back in the day: Jyhad, Netrunner (original and rebrand), Rage, Battletech, Wyvern, Illuminati, Blood Wars (Planescape), Dark Ages: Feudal Lords, Ani-Mayhem, HEX. Some are these are good games, just didn't have the player base to keep them afloat.
I sometimes play Pokemon card game. (I also play Pokemon Card GB2, sometimes. The AI is not very good. For one thing they tend to like to draw a lot of cards, which means they will often run out of cards. Their defense is often not very good, either, in my experience, and they will often attack without regard for defense.)
Yu-Gi-Oh Crossduel is their new video game adaptation, which seems to be Commander-inspired. It's 4 players, with one lane attacking each opponent, and you can essentially choose an upgradeable monster to be your commander
There was an explosion of magic-inspired (to be kind) games back in the day.
Original netrunner really should be taught as a masterclass in asymmetric game design. And there are lots of tools you can choose to use to take the gueswork out; but they do of course have an opportunity cost vs just guessing and bluffing.
Garfields next games in the series (rage and battletech) are not nearly so good. But looking back one more we come to Jyhad. (Sorry, 'vampire the eternal struggle to have enough room on the back of the cards for the game's title') - which is... it's a pretty good game, with a few different strategies to meta around and lots of room tfor tactics and politics and bluff in between. The downsides are that it's only really playable multiplayer, and it is long. So evolving those strateggies likely takes longer than you're willing to stick with it.
The warhammer 40k card game is shocking well designed, given its provenance.
The illuminati card game is roughly the illuminati boardgame in card from; shared deck to draw from. Still fun, but a ery different fun.
If you can find it - wyvern is a deck-building version of stratego. It's fun; though it feels like it needs a couple of weeks more playtesting and balancing. Or maybe I just didn't have a particularly good selection of cards.
There's a print and play Alex had - I want to say 'inspiration'? No - Ascension. Something like that. Its about half dominion and half magic; you add a card from your collection to your deck each turn, but also manage a board of creatures.
There's a bunch of mostly terrible computer games with the mechanics - ranging from etherlords to faeria. (Etherlords 2 is moderately fun for a while; faeria is inexcusably bad).
Honourable mention to things tht really push the boundaries of deck building - "Megaman Battle Network" and "Stacklands" are both quite engaging and add a realtime component to your deck management.
And of course we can't leave off without mentioning the big ones: Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon and Hearthstone. They, uh, exist. Tha's the nicest thing I can say.
I've mostly drifted away from Magic. I still love magic, the varied settings, the intricate gameplay, the interesting match of flavour and mechanics. But I don't have much time, and keeping up with a constant stream of new cards is increasingly less interesting.
Other card games I've brushed up against:
The indie Android: Retrunner resurgence. It's really well designed. The game feels good in the same way as magic while working in quite a different way. Instead of creatures on a battlefield, the corp player plays cards representing servers, and the hacker player makes hacking runs on the servers or the corp's hand or deck or discards. The corp plays firewall cards which can be bypassed at varying costs depending on the hacker's equipment, like "is it worth attacking".
I love the socially diverse cyberpunk flavour. But we only played a few games, I found the tension of second-guessing the opponent almost all of the time actually too adversarial.
I got sucked into the Marvel Snap mobile game. Each deck is 12 cards from your collection, each turn you have 1, 2, 3... energy and play card(s) from your hand to one four slots in one of three locations. Each location is won by the side with more power, try to win more locations. It squeezes an awful lot of tactics and deckbuilding into really short, quick games.
And I've played some amount of Slay the Spire, and other roguelike deckbuilders like Inscryption. To me "build a deck as you go" without being able to CHOOSE the interesting synergies is quite different, but also works well.
I don't think there's any design space for a new permanent type. Anything that goes on the battlefield can be represented by an artifact or enchantment, with a new subtype if they want to hide some of the backend rules text
Nonpermanent spells are even worse. I thought there might be room for a multi-turn sorcery, like Hearthstone has messed around with a little bit, but that's better done as a Saga
I think the only option is for a new card that goes in the command zone. Battle as a new dungeon-like mechanic that starts in your deck could be interesting. It seems likely that battle evolved out of the cut skirmish mechanic from War of the Spark
Facts:
Reasonable assumptions:
Wild guessing:
Planeswalker-like interactivity: Opponents can attack/damage battles to prevent you from "winning" the battle.
Dungeon-like benefit: You can do the same to advance through "victories"/"acts" and are rewarded with spell-like effects or maybe static effects (King of the Hill-style). Invest resources to gain incremental benefits.
What I don't expect:
For example:
Battle for Supplies
Battle
(After you draw, if you have enough conquest counters, collect your reward and advance the battle marker. Sacrifice after final reward.)
[4] You gain 5 life.
[6] Draw a card.
[10] Return up to two target nonland permanent cards with mana value 3 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield.
[2]
RULES NOT WRITTEN ON THE CARD:
Notes:
Why this needs to be a new card type IMO:
Why this might be in ONE:
My .02/fan creation. I'm here all week.