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CardName: (Red boardwipe) Cost: 4rr Type: Sorcery Pow/Tgh: / Rules Text: Destroy all artifacts, creatures, and planeswalkers. Cycling {3} ({3}, Discard this card: Draw a card.) Flavour Text: Set/Rarity: Planar Chaos Cards Rare

(Red boardwipe)
{4}{r}{r}
 
 R 
Sorcery
Destroy all artifacts, creatures, and planeswalkers.
Cycling {3} ({3}, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
Updated on 29 Mar 2018 by KeresAcheron

Code: RR05

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2018-03-29 01:30:33: KeresAcheron created the card (Red boardwipe)
2018-03-29 01:33:09: KeresAcheron edited (Red boardwipe)
2018-03-29 01:36:36: KeresAcheron edited (Red boardwipe):

Was {4}{r}{r} Sorcery "destroy all artifacts, creature and planeswalker." It now destroys all nonbasic nonenchantment permanents since it implies basic goes on more things than just basic lands.

2018-03-29 01:41:59: KeresAcheron edited (Red boardwipe):

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2018-03-29 01:43:48: KeresAcheron edited (Red boardwipe):

Given Cycling 3. Implied to be Red Aroma's Vengeance.

Dealing damage is seen as {r}'s way to remove creatures. The extent of keeping between damage and straight-up destruction different is such that even spells that deal insurmountable amounts of damage (ie. 13 or so) are seen as bends. This also blends with the idea of trying to make {b} and {r} distinguishable from each other since the two colors already share so many features.

Giving red creature destruction / wraths of this nature would go against these principles.

I would like to hear some reasonings for what role this theoretical shift is supposed play in this alternative color pie. From Reduce to Bones I know that white isn't no longer getting these, but that would be just a part of the suggested change here since IMO at least some part of the issue here lies with the role of burn in general and how this would conflict with that.

It's a red board wipe that doesn't destroy lands. That's it. It's a cheaper boardnuke that doesn't destroy lands or enchantments. This is something that is already in red's colour pie. Worldfire, Decree of Annihilation, Bearer of the Heavens, Obliterate, Apocalypse and most on target Jokalhaups

Red is already tertiary in board wipes provide they also destroy all lands. The the limitation that stops red getting these effect regularly is that destroying all lands are unfun. And even in the modern colour pie occasionally red gets these effects and this is less of bend that Star of Extinction is since it also hits artifacts.

Red destruction spells are only bends if they target a single creature. Shivan Meteor is bend while Decree of Annihilation isn't. The bend here is not also destroying any land.

Note that in Mark Rosewater's two part colour redistribution in Planar Chaos article he explained he was taking board wipes out white and shifting them into both Black and Red. This is just taking an effect that's tertiary in one colour (red) and primary in another colour (white) and reversing them. Red get's destroy everything nukes (Planar Cleansing) while black instead gets Damnation that only effects creatures (or planeswalkers). It would be bend for red to get a 4/5 cmc nondamage board wipe but at six and up red gets board wipe provide that hit everything.

In the original planar chaos this was shown by moving Armageddon into red as Bust. However since mass land destruction is unfun your giving red nukes that hit everything nonland (while not hurting enchantments since that's one of red's major weaknesses.).

Mass LD discussion isn't that related here IMO.

At blogatog, MaRo sites Blasphemous Act specifically on numerous time as the bend, and it's mass hitting spell unlike Shivan Meteor.

> http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/search/+Blasphemous+Act

Good points though. I've to mull on this.

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