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Rather than transforming, the RG listeners will now feature formshift -- a double-faced mechanic that lets you cast whichever side you want. This will be very difficult to get right, and I'm sure I'll go through a lot of iterations on the cards.
Ideally, the cards will force you to make interesting decisions where you could play either side in a given deck and have to figure out which side is better in the current situation. A potential problem that I'd like to prevent is when players that can't use both sides take them too highly. I'd like them to playable with just one side, but at the lower end of playable such that you'd really like the flexibility of both.
Trying to feel out what, exactly, the formshifters should do. This is a first attempt.
Hey, thanks!
Moved from Wg to Gw.
Great card design. Essentially blue grave hate built into in a mill player bait card.
Given the intended power level of the set, I think Hero's Downfall+ is okay.
We are getting Hero's Downfall + Lose 2 life at
next set at instant, so if you want to depower it, go for that cost.
This card is instantly playable though, and I would be happy to include this in any deck that has enough Black in it.
Hmm, somehow I didn't notice the relation between milling and tucking on bottom. It's quite interesting. That makes me think of a new wording (Cruel Fate kind):
> Look at the top five cards of target player's library. Put up to three of those cards on the bottom of that player's library in any order and the rest into his or her library graveyard.
Oh wait, that can't tuck cards that already were on the graveyard. It also could evade to anti-mill cards until you have a way to handle them unlike the current variant since those usually trigger immediately upon hitting the graveyard.
Well, whatever.
Instead of "you may" you could go with "of your choice" somewhere in there. I did something similar with Sapphire-Winged Herald to pronounce in that card that the choice is the opponent's.
I guess I was thinking of it as a small upgrade. Could see changing it to sorcery.
Or like: Destroy target creature or exile target planeswalker.
The point of making it exile was to be able to get rid of (((Jasnah the Heretic))), whose schtick is that she's hard to get rid of.
Good point. Also, it gives a downside to removing the cards from the graveyard (if you're milling, you don't want to put cards back in the deck), so you don't do it unless it's necessary. Which is a bit more elegant.
Keeping the "you may" for now because -- even though it is a bit redundant -- it helps distinguish between the two effects. Without it, the spell can easily be misread as the opponent choosing which cards to put on bottom of their library.
Wording.
Uhm, yeah, but this is a strictly better Hero's Downfall - that doesn't feel right. If Downfall is a Murder+ maybe this could be like Oblivion Strike+? So
and sorcery?
EDIT: Admittedly
sorcery isn't exciting when compared to cards like Gild or Sever the Bloodline. So maybe instant but with a cost like 
, 
, or 
.
This is somewhat of a color pie quirk, but blue doesn't generally exile stuff from opponent's graveyards - especially not in this gravehate way. That's more likely to be done by
/
or even 
. On the other hand, 
and 
can cause cards from graveyards to be shuffled back into - or put on the bottom of - their owner's libraries, which is essentially the same thing. It's a novel difference. Going with Grazing Kelpie, I would have this be:
> Target player puts the top five cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard, then put up to three cards from that graveyard on the bottom of that player's library.
Also, you don't mill for players, they mill for themselves. The "may" doesn't seem to be necessary since it uses "up to".
The closest thing I could find was Chittering Rats.
Yeah, it definitely has the potential to be unfun. That's not the goal, though. Rather, I'm trying to give UB rewards for milling beyond just forcing the opponent to draw out. That way it's not a total loss if you don't quite get there. You can buy yourself some time, and theoretically attack on multiple fronts.
A very interesting idea as far as color pie expansion goes. Putting cards on top of opponent's library is hardly fun though (anybody remember Plow Under?).
I can recall Misinformation and Lodestone Bauble being cards with a similar effect (putting cards from opponent's grave on top of their library). Are there any other?